Fixing Eddie

[StraightSix]

Wow Stein. You're Bronco looks really great. Are you sure this video isn't from 1986? Im glad the repairs turned out so well. It runs like a sewing machine (very smooth). Congrats!

[firefire]

Hi.
In the last 2 weeks the weather has changed from this  to  So I had to let Eddie out.
Put in 6 new schocks  since the not so old ones  ( O.E Supreme )  came sluggishly and very slow back from compression. The KYB schocks responds quickly and uniformly back from compression. I could feel Eddie`s suspension work better with the KYBs. The new Motorcraft Coolant Temp. Sender put the needle in the gauge at the N. Future plans may be an AFR gauge, new steering box. Besides that I guess Eddie may have his own plans. Outdoor its 8C, 48F.
Looks like spring is coming.

[Gary Lewis]

Excellent!  I hope Eddie gets to make several trips this year.  Looking forward to the pictures.  

[firefire]

Hi.
Today I decided to mount my DAB radio adapter more properly than before. In Norway we don`t use the FM band any more. This DAB adapter takes down the digital radio signals and sends them out again in the FM band. So then I can listen to Eddies original radio. I put the USB connection for the DAB adapter under the dash. Connected to the white/purple wire that has power at Acce and Ignition. All the other thin wires are for the AEM 30-4110 AFR Gauge and the Glow Shift Transmission Oil Temp. Gauge. In the lower right hand corner you can see were the cables for these devices enter the cabin. Its a lot of wires.  Here is the AFR parts. It is pretty straight forward to install it. But it is time consuming figuring out where to route and fasten it. When I got higher up I wound the cable two times around the back of the brake booster before going through the firewall. Its a long cable.. After finishing the electric connections it looked like this. The AFR read 12 at idle after a few minutes. When I hit the road it was indicating around 13 for a few minutes. Then it suddenly accelerated upwards and ended up with 3 red dots. When I stop the engine and turns on the ignition the gauge shows me first all numbers ( 111, 222,333, etc ) , then REn, USI, P00. Then it races through the higher AFR numbers and ends up with the 3 red dots. Anybody exsperienced this ? I will check the sensor and its connector tomorrow I think

[Gary Lewis]

Your AEM meter looks a lot like mine, but I've not seen that kind of response from it.  Hopefully it is just a connection.

And yes, it is a long cable.  I have wire running everywhere for that thing.  But I hadn't thought about wrapping it around the brake booster - probably because I have a hydroboost unit and not the vacuum unit you have.

[FuzzFace2]

I also have not had the 3 dots  and hope just unplug and re-plug will fix it.
I would not wrap the extra wire around the booster bracket as it has a lot of sharp edges that could cut wires.

Because I have a 300 six the exh is only on the right side so the wire comes in on that side.
Once inside I coiled it up and tucked it behind the dash.
Dave ----

[firefire]

Hi.
Glad you have not had problems. After checking the internet I worry the sensor is broken. The sensors seems to be very sensitiv in many ways. I have mounted it in a little pipe between the two exhaust pipes coming down from the exhaust manifolds. The boss for the sensor is there from Bassani. This evening I cleaned and reconnected the plug for the sensor. I also took the sensor out and nothing to see there. AEM says to use ONLY Bosch LSU4.9 sensors. The sensor in the pictures are the one from the kit. Can`t see its a Bosch.
When I turned on the ignition the Gauge went first through its rutine and showed me a reading of 14,2. But after a few seconds it ran up to and past 18. Then I got the red dots. So the fault is still there.
Sent a mail to the seller about this. Have to wait and see what he thinks.
Another thing. I rechecked Eddies timing today. He ran at 14 `BTD after getting the new timing chain. I adjusted it down to 9. The new balancer was very easy to read and the markings stood dead still when flashing.Not the slightest wandering back and fort. The result of a new timing chain I think.
Greetings Stein.

[Gary Lewis]

That’s a bummer on the sensor. But it does act like that is the problem.

But the steady timing is great. However, did you have pinging at 14 BTDC?  If not, you might want to try dialing in a bit more timing to see what the engine will stand.

[ArdWrknTrk]

The Bosch insignia is right below the 192 of the model number 1928 404 687

It's a graphic of an armature, I believe.

[firefire]

Hi.
Did not notice any pinging when at 14 btdc. You think there is a gain in performance / lower gas consumption with earlier timing ?
Stein

[Gary Lewis]

Yes, almost for sure.  But I wouldn't go beyond 14, even if it doesn't ping.

[firefire]

Hi Jim.
You are right about the symbol. I thought so myself right after I had posted. But when you look at the sensor itself there is no markings on it.  
The long number on the plug does not reference to the sensor. I think its the plug. You will find the same number on plugs on different sensors from different vendors. I am 100% sure the enclosed sensor is not a Bosch sensor.
Thats weird when AEM insists that you ONLY use the original Bosch sensor 0258017025. This sensor is 2,5 times more expensive then the copy cats. AEM sells the original Bosch as a replacement sensor, $ 110.00. They are $ 160.00 in Norway. I can by a copy  where the Bosch model number is etched on. And no other info on it. Price $ 66.00.  If you look at Bosch sensors you will find them etched with model numbers, Germany, Bosch symbol and more.
Wonder what AEM has to say ? Maybe I send them an email.
The seller does not want to take any responsebility for my sensors failure. He says that the sensor ( may ) have been damaged because of the very rich mixture ( AFR reading 10 ). It lasted 1 - 2 minutes till the choke opened up. At idle the gauge read 12,5.
Besides I dont know for sure that the sensor is broken. It is heating up when I turn the ignition on. Is there a way to test them ? Enough for now.
Stein.

[Gsmblue]

From the reviews on Amazon, many people have the same issue with AEM and the sensor not being labeled Bosch...

[ArdWrknTrk]

It's really unfortunate, the amount of counterfeit auto parts circulating today.  

I would certainly provide feedback to the manufacturer.
They may do nothing... They might reprimand the seller... At the very least they will have a data point that their product is being bundled with fake goods. (If the AFR itself is actually genuine!)

Reporting to Amazon isn't a bad idea either.
Here in the US they have been forced to address the issue of fake products sold through their portal.

[firefire]

Hi.
I have just sent a mail to AEM about this. So lets see if I get an answer.
Stein.

[FuzzFace2]

firefire wrote

The seller does not want to take any responsebility for my sensors failure. He says that the sensor ( may ) have been damaged because of the very rich mixture ( AFR reading 10 ). It lasted 1 - 2 minutes till the choke opened up. At idle the gauge read 12,5.
Besides I dont know for sure that the sensor is broken. It is heating up when I turn the ignition on. Is there a way to test them ? Enough for now.
Stein.

Mine always reads 10 / rich till the choke pulls off and I know at 1 time it was reading that most of my 45 min. drive to work. It was a 28* morning so the choke did not pull off like I thought it would.
I have since adjusted the choke and made a change to the hot air tube to get hotter and that looks like it worked to get the choke to open sooner.

I wish I know how to test the 02 as I have 2 old ones from my 02 Dodge that I would like to test and maybe put to use some how
I just did not find anything on the web about any 02 and why I bought the AFR gauge I did.
Sorry
Dave ----

[firefire]

Hi.
Still having problems with my AEM. AEM tells me to  clean the sensor. Could be clogged inside the tip.  Which I did. Got some soot out. But it did not correct the fault. They also tell me that the sensor is a Bosch sensor. But the markings have been removed by their suppliers. Cant sell it as a Bosch unit due to legalities regarding permissions. And it surely looks like the sensors body has been polished. So I may just accept that. But without any markings how can you know what you have bought ? The one they sell as a replacement is the original Bosch unit with a much longer and different cable. There are some videos on Youtube that shows you how to test them. The heating element works. The sensor heats up when I turn the ignition on. With my Fluke the resistance measured 3 Ohm. I have also learned that these sensor produce electrisity ( the signal to the gauge ) depending on the amount of oxygen hitting the sensor element. Heating up the tip with a torch flame I got a max reading of 0,6V.  But a flame torch also burns away most of the oxygen.  AEM writes sensor signals from 0 -5V. Highest V is highest AFR. I am confused. I have ordered a new Bosch sensor. My plan is to attach it to the gauge and do a wet rag test. Thats a test outside of the exhaust pipe. Then if the gauge does not work I will send it back to the seller and ask for a replacement / refund.  Next week mr. Winter may come back to visit us
Stein.

[Gsmblue]

I checked my AES AFR sensor. I ordered it directly from AES. There are no markings on the sensor at all.

I hope you get it working. I will let you know how my install goes!

[firefire]

Hi. Good luck with your AES ( AEM?). I read about your Blue Top install. So I got inspired to begin on mine. It is pretty straight forward to disconnect the various parts. The steering joint needed a few whacks with a hammer around the tip on the pitman arm, a crowbar and a knock on its top. Then it came loose. I got the piping on top of steering gear off with regular wrenches. Removed the oil cooler line and  I think I will replace it They live in a pretty harsh environment and are 36 years old. Getting the nut off the pitman arm was no match for my impact wrench. But my little puller was out of its league I think I find a better one at work. Today it did not snow. Even the sun was to be seen😀. Top day temp was 5C. Nice beer temp.
Greetings Stein

[Gary Lewis]

Wow!  5C = 41F.  Nice day, especially that far north.  It is 63F = 17C here.

The Blue Top looks great.  Gotta do that for Big Blue some day.  But to remove the Pitman arm did you try banging the side of the arm with the puller on it?

And I agree, the cooler lives in a harsh environment and yours looks like it has seen better days.  Replacing it looks like a good plan.