Frame is flexing on the driver's side

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ArdWrknTrk
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Here's the illustration.
You're talking about M-89-HF?

 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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CDLong
ArdWrknTrk wrote
Here's the illustration.
You're talking about M-89-HF?

Yes sir. Gary has told me which bushing kits to get. Gary and Matt have told me how to replace them. As long as I have you folks,I feel I'm in good hands!
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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ArdWrknTrk
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It's a 3/4-10 lock nut.
The wrench size for 3/4 is 1 1/8", but I don't know if there's something special about these.

You might wait for someone who actually has a 150 to give you the correct answer. 💡
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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ArdWrknTrk
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Oh, I wanted to say that I think it's Great that you get to spend time with your granddaughter, teaching and sharing with her.

I lost all but my maternal grandmother real young, so I guess I missed out on a lot of quality time!
Bless you.  ❤️
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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CDLong
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ArdWrknTrk wrote
It's a 3/4-10 lock nut.
The wrench size for 3/4 is 1 1/8", but I don't know if there's something special about these.

You might wait for someone who actually has a 150 to give you the correct answer. 💡
Thanks Jim.
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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CDLong
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ArdWrknTrk wrote
Oh, I wanted to say that I think it's Great that you get to spend time with your granddaughter, teaching and sharing with her.

I lost all but my maternal grandmother real young, so I guess I missed out on a lot of quality time!
Bless you.  ❤️
She hasn't old me, but told granny, "That's gonna be my first car". When she tells me, I'm tellin' her-You keep dreamin'! I only knew my maternal Grandfather. My paternal Grandfather left me a Remington 870 12 gauge, He purchased it when I was born in 1952 & an Elgin pocket watch.
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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ArdWrknTrk
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Sure.  . It's just what I do!  
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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ArdWrknTrk
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That's quite a story.
Leaving you a Wingmaster/Fieldmaster and a pocket watch must bring a lump to your throat each time you have them in your hands.
What a touching legacy from beyond.

As for your granddaughter, a little ribbing is good for a child, but please don't be too discouraging.
She's obviously invested in the truck and the time she gets to spend with you.

I've been discussing with my own sister our fraught relationships with our family.
She's let me know how disheartened she is with the fact she didn't often get invited shooting or out in the garage.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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CDLong
ArdWrknTrk wrote
That's quite a story.
Leaving you a Wingmaster/Fieldmaster and a pocket watch must bring a lump to your throat each time you have them in your hands.
What a touching legacy from beyond.

As for your granddaughter, a little ribbing is good for a child, but please don't be too discouraging.
She's obviously invested in the truck and the time she gets to spend with you.

I've been discussing with my own sister our fraught relationships with our family.
She's let me know how disheartened she is with the fact she didn't often get invited shooting or out in the garage.
I forgot, Daddy left me a Remington 762 gamemaster 30-06 he bought in 53 when he returned from the Korean War.
Back in them days, most women didn't care to shoot or mechanic. My Aunt Ruth owned a 308. It set in the corner of the kitchen. Every Thanksgiving, she cooked the dinner and the family all gathered there to hunt & eat, 1st Day of deer season. Most years, she got a deer from the window because we were all out in the woods causing the deer to move.
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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ArdWrknTrk
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Can't shoot from a structure or car here in CT
Though if you're disabled you can shoot from a Quad or otherwise motorized device.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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BigBrother-84
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CDLong wrote
Most years, she got a deer from the window because we were all out in the woods causing the deer to move.
 I love this story!

My partner in business told me that her grandpa has once shoot a bear in their fishing camp.
He found it when coming back from a fishing day and, instead letting it going out, he took his gun and shot it right in the kitchen.
His wife was really angry against him!
Jeff / 1984 F350 Crew Cab 4x4/5.8L w351 4V/ T18/ D50 4.10 front/ 8' bed.
Restored 2019-2022.
Nicknamed «Big Brother 1984», due to its soooo-looong shape & nod to George Orwell's 1984 famous novel.
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CDLong
Comin' down to the wire. Bushings for sway bar and radius arms are here. Waitin' for the plastic spacers. My game plan is jack the truck up just enough to remove the tired. Support the frame with jack stands. Remove the sway bar & both 1-1/8 inch nuts. Use a ratchet strap to pull one side forward and insert new radius arm bushings. What's the correct torque for the nuts? I found 80-120 & 180 ft lbs. Is there a torque for the sway bar bushings?
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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CDLong
Is this correct?  but you gotta torque it while it's sitting on the wheels.
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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mat in tn
torqueing the suspension parts while sitting on the ground is a good practice.at that point everything is sitting where it should be and then they get torqued in a "neutral" position. if you were to torque them hanging then they would sit pre stressed and shorten the life of any bonded bushings
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CDLong
Thanks Matt. Any comment on the torque specs?
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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mat in tn
150 comes to mind for the radius arms but double check that.im sure its in documents here.
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Re: Frame is flexing on the driver's side

CDLong
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Gary Lewis wrote
You don't have to remove the brackets.  I've done it, and others have as well, by using a come-along or ratchet strap attached to the bumper to pull the TTB forward far enough to get the radius arm out of the bracket.
So, I have removed the sway bar and both radius arm nuts. The 1-inch ratchet strap is hooked to my Silverado. I am only able to move the axle forward 1-2 inches. I also used the floor jack so the axle wasn't just hanging. What now?
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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Gary Lewis
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You are supporting the truck with a jack stand under the frame, right?  And you have the rear wheels blocked so the truck can't possibly move.

I think you need a larger strap, meaning one with more capacity and with a larger lever.  The one I used was at least 2" wide and much heavier than yours, and it was a hard pull.
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mat in tn
NO. NO. NO!
this is wrong. the ratchet strap should be on the same vehicle not hooked to another.  and you still need to disconnect the shocks and possibly the spring. you are fighting too many attachments.
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Re: Frame is flexing on the driver's side

CDLong
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Gary Lewis wrote
You are supporting the truck with a jack stand under the frame, right?  And you have the rear wheels blocked so the truck can't possibly move.

I think you need a larger strap, meaning one with more capacity and with a larger lever.  The one I used was at least 2" wide and much heavier than yours, and it was a hard pull.
Yes to both questions. 3-ton jack stands. One wheel chock.
CD Long Jr
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 302 EFI AOD transmission 4x4 regular cab LWB
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