460 starter issue

[ArdWrknTrk]

They are probably L&L swap mounts and Windsor frame perches.

Do you have a pic?

[mat in tn]

no, I do not have any pictures but that does sound plausible. I will look up l&l and see. it a direction to go at least. but this is a 7.5 chassis.  

[ArdWrknTrk]

So, you need the mounts and heat shield Bill already showed...

[mat in tn]

actually no. I have the same parts that bill showed and are in decent condition. I just looked through the l&l catalog and these are not what I had seen, also not anything that we don't make. building hotrods and restomods we are always making parts and mounts. I know that I can true this alignment up but I would rather use a ford part if I just have something missing. as is often the case I am doing corrective work from who knows how many prior.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Maybe swap mounts are the WTG?
They will definitely have the engine sitting higher, which would point the tranny down.

How did the fan center in the shroud, before you yanked the engine?

[mat in tn]

another example. it is a d1 block. a d9 flywheel. a missing separator plate. an oil filter access port torched through the "k" member.
she's a Beute Clark!

[mat in tn]

shroud?????
and the fan blade was facing forward. correct rotation yet cupped toward the rad.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Well, you better hope there's a D9 crank in there and a pork chop behind the balancer!

[mat in tn]

nice round balancer! and the bearings had a very unique "pressure point" style war pattern. this engine shook for a few reasons, and not just the two weak, and one dead cylinder. I am covering the bases to get this straightened out. the correct flywheel is a big part of that. four of the pistons dropped broken rings on the floor as soon as I slipped them from their bores. walls showed that a heavily rusted engine had been fired back to life and thrown in this truck for a quick sale. block is now .030 over. i should be picking it up this week.

[ArdWrknTrk]

You're not a moron like the last guy.  
I'm certain you'll make it right. 👍

If there's a way I can help, just LMK

[mat in tn]

very appreciated! I want to do this correctly. and I do not mind asking for advice or tips when outside my norm. and I don't mind sharing when I can help too.

[ArdWrknTrk]

[mat in tn]

well i have searched a few yards and i found two bbf separator plates. both installed and only available with an assembly. I may be getting the plasma cutter out.

[85lebaront2]

I may have an extra one.

[ArdWrknTrk]

See what I've said to CJett about Send-Cut-Send..

[mat in tn]

one for a t19?

[ArdWrknTrk]

It could be done.

The only issue I see is the curved louver.
But, that could be cut on the rear and sides, then stitched on the fold.

This makes it easy to bend.
Then you weld up the little slots and it's crazy stiff.

[mat in tn]

I have already designed in my head how to fab a lower cover and mate it to a flat plate in case I need to make one of adapt an auto plate. which is my real dilemma. how can I know if the starter is indexed the same on an auto vs the t19? cutting the starter hole is the most important part here. and I don't even have one as a template. I can loft out a blueprint/plan, but I still have an unknown. and it may just come down to precise measuring and good math. me like math.haha.

[ArdWrknTrk]

The auto and manual starters are in the same place (flywheel and ring gear are same diameter, plate # is the same for both)
Bill has one.
Maybe he can photo it on a grid, or better yet, put it on a piece of card stock and spray paint over it lightly. 👂

[mat in tn]

i can buy one from summit for a 460 but it is a flat one. I'm happy to go that route and just fab the lower add on "chin cover". I just hope to know before I buy. time saved along with gas saved gets real.