"Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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So, let's look at those pages...
I see a resistor in line before the dg/y goes into the ECA, but I don't see a tach output.








Was the EEC 4.9 never available with a tach?
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

thefraze_1020
Well if that is the case, that would be one (unfortunate) answer to why my tach doesn't work.
Cameron

1986 F-150 Base, 4x2, 4.9L I6, C6
1992 F-250 XLT, longbed extended cab, 4x4, 7.5L V8, ZF5 5-speed
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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I honestly don't know Cam.

We should get Dave (Fuzzface) or David on the case because it surely seems unlikely that a tach wasnt an option on your truck.

I'm only looking at the diagram shown in the EVTM, but they deal with specific circuits, not the whole thing.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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This post was updated on .
I'm a dumbass.
It's right there on the first page pointing straight up, wire 11 (see pg 95)



640 r/y hot in run. Lower left



60 bk/lg (ground)

 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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Sorry
It's hard to do this on a phone.  
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

FuzzFace2
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ArdWrknTrk wrote
I honestly don't know Cam.

We should get Dave (Fuzzface) or David on the case because it surely seems unlikely that a tach wasnt an option on your truck.

I'm only looking at the diagram shown in the EVTM, but they deal with specific circuits, not the whole thing.
Good you found it as I don't know how much help I would have been.
My truck is an 81 with a 300 six and all I had to do was swap in the tach gauge cluster and it worked.
So if anything had to be done at the ICM area to get the tach to work I did not need to do.

Yea looking at the wiring on a phone can be hair pulling
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

Sac79
I swapped in a tach cluster and did not have to do anything either. And I had EEC. Not sure if it will work now with the HEI, I'm hoping so.

Here's a pic for reference. All the nuts are tight.

Rob

Eddy Myrtle '84 F150 300-6, Offenhauser C series intake, Edelbrock 1404(500cfm manual choke), EFI exhaust manifold, HEI dizzy, custom Painless harness, NP 435, NP 208, D44, 8.8"/3.08, 1.5" leveling coils, 265/75/16 tires.
Toyopet (Daily driver) '86 Toyota Pickup
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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I think it should be easy enough to 'prove' ground, key on power and that the all important tach pulse wire is good all the way to the coil.

There are only a few connectors that might be corroded. (easy to check, and clean)
At least we can follow the whole circuit now.

If all that works it must be the tach.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

Gary Lewis
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There's only one more connector, C169, and it is said to be a brown 2-pin near the fuel pump relay, meaning on the driver's side of the firewall between the brake booster and fender.


Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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It's shown on pg 95 (above) which seems to be the correct page for a 4.9 w/EEC

Which EVTM are you using Gary?
Is it on this site?
Maybe I missed it

 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

Gary Lewis
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Sorry, I missed that you'd posted that page already.  And that one is from the '86 EVTM.  The one I'm using is from the '85 EVTM, both of which are on the site.  

Both are correct for all trucks in the circuit we are referencing, meaning the tach.  The only difference is that for 1985 and earlier the wire was black with light green dots.  In '86 the dots turned into stripes.

However, lots of other things are shown on those pages, and in particular the fuel tank switching arrangement did change between trucks with different engines and # of tanks.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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When i go to electrical I only see the '81 & '86 EVTM.  
If I had known the correct year was there somewhere I should have used it.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

Gary Lewis
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Say WHAT?  You can't even see the '84 or '85 that lie between the '81 and '86?  


Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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I get this:

 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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No wonder it's more frustrating for some of us than others.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

Gary Lewis
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You are seeing a years-old menu.  Note that yours starts with Ammeter, and misses out the 3G Conversion and Alternator pages.

Could you clear the cache?  There's something seriously wrong and I think your browser is remembering the site the way it was two years ago.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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Ok, I wiped cache, I still see the same menu.
Maybe it's a Chrome thing?
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

FuzzFace2
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Gary Lewis wrote
You are seeing a years-old menu.  Note that yours starts with Ammeter, and misses out the 3G Conversion and Alternator pages.

Could you clear the cache?  There's something seriously wrong and I think your browser is remembering the site the way it was two years ago.
If Jim is on a phone how would you do that?
Don't think I have ever heard of it done on a phone but guess there has to be a way?
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

ArdWrknTrk
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I can, and did!

Chrome version 80.0.3987.162
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Re: "Cam's Ol' Blue"- 1986 F-150 Base Ex-State of Oregon

Gary Lewis
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I'm using Chrome on my Windows devices, but Safari on my iPhone.  However, I just tried Chrome on my phone and it shows the whole menu.

Maybe try another browser?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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