T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

[PetesPonies]

Anyone have one they would like to sell? More specifically they are called TODs. They are aluminum 4 speed/od with the shifter sitting up on top of the case. They were used in 84-87 Ford trucks.

[PetesPonies]

I have posted, looking for this trans, in several places. Not here, but I have been contacted a few times by someone saying they have a trans, but, no it's not what I'm looking for  :) Really? Are we that dumb now? 435s, 3 speeds, all have been offered . .  SMH.

[Gary Lewis]

I've never seen one of those transmissions.  Most of what I've been around in the manuals have been the NP435 and T18's and 19's.

By the way, I do have an NP and a T19 for sale.  

[PetesPonies]

It wasn't a heavy duty transmission. Used in 2wd, mainly behind 4.9s, some 302s. And no, not interested in what you have  :)

[Rembrant]

I think that specific TOD trans is fairly uncommon isn't it?...

I was going to ask why not an M5OD 5spd...same thing...aluminum case, top mounted shifter, etc...but then I remembered that you're not running a SBF and therefore need the ability to change the bellhousing.

I know I'm off in a different part of the world up here, but it seems that 9 times out of 10, every 3 pedal Bullnose I see has the New Process 4spd. Then again, it IS market dependent...I know here at least, probably more than 90% of the trucks sold in that era were for work, and OD was never really needed.

Don't mind me Pete, I'm just rambling...

[PetesPonies]

No they used a lot of them, before the 5 speed. The problem with that 5 speed is that it is a hydraulic activated clutch. Not interested in that.

[myrl883]

I don't know where you're located, but the PickNPull in Vancouver, WA has a truck with one in it...

[PetesPonies]

I'm located about as far away from there that I could be . . but you can UPS it to me  :)

[IDIBronco]

Just out of curiosity would a 4 speed manual E150 van have that transmission?  I could go pull the doghouse and see what I can see...  I know it is a 4 speed and pretty sure it was an overdrive.  I know it has mechanical linkage.  If a van transmission could work let me know and I will do a more detailed investigation.

[IDIBronco]

Pretty sure now it is the transmission you want.  It is a top loaded, side shift linkage 3+O.D.  I have only heard it referred to as a RUG transmission.  Although, a quick google search says they are one in the same...







Let me know what you need to know.

[Gary Lewis]

Our page at Documentation/Driveline/Transmissions/Manual Transmissions and then the Applications tab has the full applications list from the MPC, meaning it includes the vans.  So you can see what they used.

[Gary Lewis]

From our Specifications/Transmission Codes page "B" is a 4-speed Clark with OD.

[IDIBronco]

What door code matches the transmission being requested?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1021939-did-the-econoline-ever-come-with-a-manual-transmission-3.html

I went with this website to see it was a "RUG".

My transmission I believe to be the same exact transmission as in the linked post for a 1980 van...

And this site

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hemmings.com/stories/article/ford-toploader-four-speed-transmission/amp

Showed that the T170 and RUG were the same I thought.

I suspect from reading here...
https://www.advanceadapters.com/tech-vault/3-ford-tc-overdive-transmission/

The transmissions are related, but not the same.

I wonder if the "truck RTS", the advanced adapters site shows, is what is being looked for if a shifter on top as described is required...  



I have now spent quite a bit of time reading about not popular transmissions...

I do believe my trans to be an aluminum cases, top loades, side shifted transmission, 3+OD transmission.  If there is any interest I will take the skid steer or forklift over and see if I can get it off the ground enough to see exactly what it is, take pictures, and hopefully find some id tag.  Otherwise I will just leave it.  I traded for the van just to get the manual pedals, column, and linkage.  I figured I could convert the pedals for a hydraulic clutch master and run in the e350 van if I ever want to swap in a ZF and do a 4x4 conversion.  Those parts are somewhat difficult to find.  The extra parts like the saginaw, spare doors, bumpers, etc are just a bonus.

But I ramble on...

[Littlebeefy]

I know it's been a while, but if you are still looking for the T170 4sp w/OD (the RTS TOD aluminum case version), I have a working and complete one that I'm pulling out of my 84 Bronco. Are you still looking?

[foggygoggles]

im looking for a rts 4 speed do you still have it

[Littlebeefy]

Yes. DM sent to you.