T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

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T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

PetesPonies
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Anyone have one they would like to sell? More specifically they are called TODs. They are aluminum 4 speed/od with the shifter sitting up on top of the case. They were used in 84-87 Ford trucks.
Pete's Ponies
Mustang RUSToration & Performance

1982 F100 Flareside
1983 Bronco

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

PetesPonies
I have posted, looking for this trans, in several places. Not here, but I have been contacted a few times by someone saying they have a trans, but, no it's not what I'm looking for  :) Really? Are we that dumb now? 435s, 3 speeds, all have been offered . .  SMH.
Pete's Ponies
Mustang RUSToration & Performance

1982 F100 Flareside
1983 Bronco

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

Gary Lewis
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I've never seen one of those transmissions.  Most of what I've been around in the manuals have been the NP435 and T18's and 19's.

By the way, I do have an NP and a T19 for sale.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

PetesPonies
It wasn't a heavy duty transmission. Used in 2wd, mainly behind 4.9s, some 302s. And no, not interested in what you have  :)
Pete's Ponies
Mustang RUSToration & Performance

1982 F100 Flareside
1983 Bronco

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

Rembrant
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I think that specific TOD trans is fairly uncommon isn't it?...

I was going to ask why not an M5OD 5spd...same thing...aluminum case, top mounted shifter, etc...but then I remembered that you're not running a SBF and therefore need the ability to change the bellhousing.

I know I'm off in a different part of the world up here, but it seems that 9 times out of 10, every 3 pedal Bullnose I see has the New Process 4spd. Then again, it IS market dependent...I know here at least, probably more than 90% of the trucks sold in that era were for work, and OD was never really needed.

Don't mind me Pete, I'm just rambling...
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

PetesPonies
No they used a lot of them, before the 5 speed. The problem with that 5 speed is that it is a hydraulic activated clutch. Not interested in that.
Pete's Ponies
Mustang RUSToration & Performance

1982 F100 Flareside
1983 Bronco

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

myrl883
I don't know where you're located, but the PickNPull in Vancouver, WA has a truck with one in it...
Ford Parts Monkey since 1985
1981 F100 Flareside - Black, 302-4V Roller/AOD
1986 F150 Flareside - Medium Fire Red 302/AOD
1989 F150 Standard Cab 4x4 - Dk Shadow Blue 302/AOD
1993 F350 4x4 Crew Cab - 7.3 IDI/ZF-5
I think it's a sickness...
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PetesPonies
I'm located about as far away from there that I could be . . but you can UPS it to me  :)
Pete's Ponies
Mustang RUSToration & Performance

1982 F100 Flareside
1983 Bronco

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

IDIBronco
Just out of curiosity would a 4 speed manual E150 van have that transmission?  I could go pull the doghouse and see what I can see...  I know it is a 4 speed and pretty sure it was an overdrive.  I know it has mechanical linkage.  If a van transmission could work let me know and I will do a more detailed investigation.
1985 Bronco
6.9 IDI
C6 T19
hydroboost brakes

8 Lug coil sprung D44ttb
10.25 3:55
warn classic bumper
8274 warn winch
Saginaw Conversion

1986 Ford F350 "Dump Truck"
6.9 IDI
T19
8'x12'x4' hydraulic dump bed
front mounted tow bar

1981 Ford F350 "Welding Truck"
300 I6
T18
Welders bed with hoist
onboard air
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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

IDIBronco
Pretty sure now it is the transmission you want.  It is a top loaded, side shift linkage 3+O.D.  I have only heard it referred to as a RUG transmission.  Although, a quick google search says they are one in the same...







Let me know what you need to know.




1985 Bronco
6.9 IDI
C6 T19
hydroboost brakes

8 Lug coil sprung D44ttb
10.25 3:55
warn classic bumper
8274 warn winch
Saginaw Conversion

1986 Ford F350 "Dump Truck"
6.9 IDI
T19
8'x12'x4' hydraulic dump bed
front mounted tow bar

1981 Ford F350 "Welding Truck"
300 I6
T18
Welders bed with hoist
onboard air
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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

Gary Lewis
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Our page at Documentation/Driveline/Transmissions/Manual Transmissions and then the Applications tab has the full applications list from the MPC, meaning it includes the vans.  So you can see what they used.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

Gary Lewis
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From our Specifications/Transmission Codes page "B" is a 4-speed Clark with OD.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

IDIBronco
What door code matches the transmission being requested?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1021939-did-the-econoline-ever-come-with-a-manual-transmission-3.html

I went with this website to see it was a "RUG".

My transmission I believe to be the same exact transmission as in the linked post for a 1980 van...

And this site

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hemmings.com/stories/article/ford-toploader-four-speed-transmission/amp

Showed that the T170 and RUG were the same I thought.

I suspect from reading here...
https://www.advanceadapters.com/tech-vault/3-ford-tc-overdive-transmission/

The transmissions are related, but not the same.

I wonder if the "truck RTS", the advanced adapters site shows, is what is being looked for if a shifter on top as described is required...  



I have now spent quite a bit of time reading about not popular transmissions...

I do believe my trans to be an aluminum cases, top loades, side shifted transmission, 3+OD transmission.  If there is any interest I will take the skid steer or forklift over and see if I can get it off the ground enough to see exactly what it is, take pictures, and hopefully find some id tag.  Otherwise I will just leave it.  I traded for the van just to get the manual pedals, column, and linkage.  I figured I could convert the pedals for a hydraulic clutch master and run in the e350 van if I ever want to swap in a ZF and do a 4x4 conversion.  Those parts are somewhat difficult to find.  The extra parts like the saginaw, spare doors, bumpers, etc are just a bonus.

But I ramble on...



1985 Bronco
6.9 IDI
C6 T19
hydroboost brakes

8 Lug coil sprung D44ttb
10.25 3:55
warn classic bumper
8274 warn winch
Saginaw Conversion

1986 Ford F350 "Dump Truck"
6.9 IDI
T19
8'x12'x4' hydraulic dump bed
front mounted tow bar

1981 Ford F350 "Welding Truck"
300 I6
T18
Welders bed with hoist
onboard air
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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

Littlebeefy
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I know it's been a while, but if you are still looking for the T170 4sp w/OD (the RTS TOD aluminum case version), I have a working and complete one that I'm pulling out of my 84 Bronco. Are you still looking?
LittleBeefy aka Chad

“Dot Doitall”: 1984 Bronco XLT
460 (C8VE), Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4, ZF5, NP205, D44HP solid axle, 4.56
urban assault vehicle

"Bebe": 2022 Bronco Badlands 2dr
2.7l, Sasquatch, Iconic Silver, Black Marine-grade interior, hard-top

"Celeste": 1979 Porsche 928
4.5l K-jet, 5-sp, S4/GTS brakes, LSD, Pasha interior
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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

foggygoggles
im looking for a rts 4 speed do you still have it
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Re: T170 TOD transmission 4 speed OD

Littlebeefy
Yes. DM sent to you.
LittleBeefy aka Chad

“Dot Doitall”: 1984 Bronco XLT
460 (C8VE), Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4, ZF5, NP205, D44HP solid axle, 4.56
urban assault vehicle

"Bebe": 2022 Bronco Badlands 2dr
2.7l, Sasquatch, Iconic Silver, Black Marine-grade interior, hard-top

"Celeste": 1979 Porsche 928
4.5l K-jet, 5-sp, S4/GTS brakes, LSD, Pasha interior