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BigBrother-84

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

I have two commentaries:

1- Forum membership
• IMHO, I think it is important to keep free access to members, it's in the Forum "family oriented" DNA. It's not everybody who can afford to put money to become and stay a member of this community.
• So, I suggest that any disbursements would be on a voluntary basis. I will, for sure!
• And maybe should we keep each participation amount confidential? It could avoid some "competition" or "frustration" among contributing members?
• Now, how the participation amounts will be collected? This implies a minimal infrastructure, payment system (PayPal?), email communication, etc. It has to be simple and easy...

2- Scenario
Option 2 for me. Bunch of dollars to migrate, but after it will be 600$/year. I think it would be easy to find 12 apostles among us to take in charge one month each. For the migration costs, you could do a survey among members, to figure out if we can collect enough money (I suggest that we email you directly the amount we figure to donate).

Does it make sense?

Jeff / 1984 F350 Crew Cab 4x4/5.8L w351 4V/ T18/ D50 4.10 front/ 8' bed.
Restored 2019-2022.
Nicknamed «Big Brother 1984», due to its soooo-looong shape & nod to George Orwell's 1984 famous novel.

Gary Lewis

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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Jeff - I understand what you are saying, and I fully agree that membership needs to be free. I have no plans to require a fee of any kind to participate.

As for contributions, I'd hope to keep them confidential. There are mechanisms for donating, both through a Weebly plug-in as well as via InVision - should we choose to use InVision.

Also, all costs and funding will be kept track of via a page on the website. And funds will be held in a separate bank account from our personal one. No mixing of funds and complete transparency.

Dane & Jeff - We've not decided to use InVision, but I think you are voting for moving this Nabble forum over to some other platform, meaning migrate the whole thing. And if we have a major upfront cost that you'll help defray it. Is that what you are saying?

What I hope we can do is to find the best fit for us, meaning a platform that allows my friend Jay to create the migration tool such that we don't have a cost for migration. And that it has a reasonable monthly cost. So we will keep looking. But we are making progress.

All - I'd appreciate hearing from others. So don't stop now.

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

ArdWrknTrk

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You could set up something like patreon.

Sure there's an overhead cost, but they take care of all the currency conversions, monthly subscriptions, annual,one time, it doesn't matter.....

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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Thanks, Jim. I didn't know of that. I'll check it out.

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BigBrother-84

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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Gary Lewis wrote

And if we have a major upfront cost that you'll help defray it. Is that what you are saying?

Yes Sir, it will be a pleasure to contribute to this migration!

Jeff / 1984 F350 Crew Cab 4x4/5.8L w351 4V/ T18/ D50 4.10 front/ 8' bed.
Restored 2019-2022.
Nicknamed «Big Brother 1984», due to its soooo-looong shape & nod to George Orwell's 1984 famous novel.

grumpin

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

BigBrother-84 wrote

Gary Lewis wrote

And if we have a major upfront cost that you'll help defray it. Is that what you are saying?

Yes Sir, it will be a pleasure to contribute to this migration!

Yes.

Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona

ArdWrknTrk

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I'll do what I can.
Still trying to scrape together rear end parts.
Feeding myself is becoming ridiculous.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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Dane - Thanks.

Jim - We will get there, don't worry. But thanks anyway.

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wvfarmboy

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

no don't change a thing. it works well

Gary Lewis

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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wvfarmboy wrote

no don't change a thing. it works well

I think you are in the minority as the vote currently is 15 to move and 0 not to, although if you vote it'll be 15:1.

You may not be using some of the features that are broken. For instance the ability to email or send private messages between members. This doesn't usually work, and if it does it looks like it didn't. Or the joining process that requires an admin to administer, and even then we don't have a way to require the newbie to accept the guidelines. Plus there's the process to post pictures that frequently requires us to explain it to the newbie.

On top of that the host, Franklin, has asked people to find a new home for their forums, and I suspect he will shut his server down at some point. Given that, I believe it is imperative that we find a new forum platform and migrate to it. And that is where the sticking point currently is - migration, moving what we have here to a new platform in order to keep all the info we've accumulated.

We are in the process of evaluating various packages and at this point have tried four: phpBB; MyBB; Discourse; & InVision. I need to write up what we think we've found, but we thought we wanted to go with InVision and then learned that the migration cost is steep. Several have said they'll help defray that cost, but we don't want to make that decision until we have all the facts, and we are still working on that.

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AmericanSavage

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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I think this is a great idea. That said, I reiterate everything BigBrother noted as well.

1980 Ford XLT F350
400 Engine (rebuilt to 406)
Holley 2300 500 CFM manual Choke Carb
Under Restore (1st time)

Big6John

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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You should look into what the red square forum uses for a platform. Im a member their and their site is amazing. They have a spot were you can donate, classifieds, and navigating through the site is so easy. Also joining red square is pretty easy.

1986 f150 std cab long bed, 4.9L 300 inline 6, 4spd, 53k miles, 2 barrel carb, EFI split exhaust manifolds, HEI distributor, and much more to come!
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Gary Lewis

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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Big6John wrote

You should look into what the red square forum uses for a platform. Im a member their and their site is amazing. They have a spot were you can donate, classifieds, and navigating through the site is so easy. Also joining red square is pretty easy.

Could you give me a link to that forum? I found two different ones when I looked.

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Big6John

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/
Here is a link to the red square forum site.

Gary Lewis

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Thanks. I'll check it out. But if you could ask on there what forum package they are using it might help. Sometimes it is hard to tell from the outside.

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Big6John

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

I’ll do that

Big6John

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I haven’t heard anything back but could this be it?

It say powered by
Invision community at the bottom?

Gary Lewis

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

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Yes, that is almost certainly it. And InVision is our most recently-tested platform. It seems to work nicely, but the conversion or migration from our current forum to it is the problem. If we run on their server they have to do the migration and that is going to be about $2K.

I have a friend who says he wants to do it, but that means we'd have to run on someone else's server and buy the InVision software plus pay an annual maintenance fee. And that approach gets pricey quite quickly.

So we are still thinking about this. Chris/ckuske is traveling but when he gets back and settled we need to figure out our next move.

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Big6John

Re: Should We Move To A New Forum Platform?

That’s quite pricey

Gary Lewis

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It is pricey. But I've already had several volunteer to help and it might be worth it to have a supported platform.

Anyway, Chris and I are talking in the background on what to do next. Stay tuned...

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