Queston's on PMGR starter upgrade

[Frogger2662]

Upgrading my 5.0 with AOD transmission to the PMGR starter.
Any opinions on brand to use?
New or rebuilt?
I pulled the engine out for a rebuild so now will be a good
Time to swap it out.

[Gary Lewis]

I'm not high on Powermaster.  I'm running one because it was on the truck when I got it, as was a Powermaster alternator.  But it failed almost immediately and they don't sell replacement parts.  You have to ship it back.  Don't know if that applies to starters.

Were I to buy I'd probably go to DB Electric.  Several on here have had good luck with their alternators, so why not their starters.  Here's a link to their starters for Ford F-Series.

[Frogger2662]

Never heard of that brand. Might be a possiblity.
Are the new motorcraft starters any good?
I see them on Rockauto. A little more money though.

[Gary Lewis]

Yes, I'm sure the Motorcraft ones are good.

[Frogger2662]

Thanks for the info.
I like the price and shipping on the DB Electric starter. Their web site shows that it is not available.

[Gary Lewis]

That's a bummer!  Call them?  They are pretty easy to talk to.

[85lebaront2]

1990 Lincoln Town Car, 302, AOD and PMGR starter. Just look for that one, will also work on 4.9L and 351W with automatic transmissions.

My son and I started this bit years ago after finding it was a bolt on for trucks as well as cars. I finally had to change the first one I put on Darth sometime in the late 90s this past summer.

[ArdWrknTrk]

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[ArdWrknTrk]

Amazon shows the DB starter as Prime, so they must have some in their warehouses.

At the same price too....

https://www.amazon.com/DB-Electrical-SFD0001-Starter-Thunderbird/dp/B007Y86938

[85lebaront2]

The point I was making is there are other sources for a good starter, I will bet I can call Pasco Monday and he will have a new Certi-Pro (the brand Matt's old company carried, Pasco bought the name and stock) or a good remanufactured one on the shelf and that's here on Virginia's appendix.

[ArdWrknTrk]

My point is the numbers cross for all 5.0, 5.8, 4.9, etc automatic applications.
You can walk into any parts store and ask for a '95 pickup starter, or an Aviator starter or a Grand Marquis starter, or a Town Car.

If 41014023 is in the system it's a hit.

That's one of the nice things about DB's website.
They have the Lester numbers, and all the competitors numbers. Bosch, Delco, Motorcraft.....

[Rusty_S85]

At work we've always used the hatachi replacement for the Ford PMGR starters that is what our supplier sells as they are more dependable and powerful than the OE units.

If I have to go PMGR on my 9.0:1 to 9.5:1 306 build I will use the Hatachi replacement otherwise I plan on sticking with the OE starter that is still going strong from since I got the truck in 92.

[Rembrant]

I know you're looking for a new one, but I grabbed a PMGR starter out of a 1996 F150 at the junkyard a couple years ago. It was a fairly fresh Napa reman, and I was under the truck getting something else anyway, so I grabbed it. It is now in my 1980 and working like a champ!

I haven't installed one in my '84 yet...but likely will when the time comes.