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Frogger2662
If you could that would be great. No hurry though. I would like to do this swap with minimium modifications.
I would still keep my original proportioning valve?
1984 F150 Flareside
1992 5.0 with edelbrock 4 barrel
Comp XE264HR cam
GT40 heads
3.70 rear gear with T5 trans
Dual exhaust.
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85lebaront2
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I believe, but would have to do some digging. I used the booster from the 1990 parts truck and ordered a master cylinder for one with the later speed control as I needed the port for my trailer brake controller (yes, I still have a nice hydraulically operated brake controller). I had to use the front port as the residual pressure valve would keep my brakes applied. Since I was also planning on using the electronic cruise control anyway, I needed the extra port.

Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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Machspeed
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I received my new master cylinder today. This is a Motorcraft unit, item# BRM63. Note that it does come with the residual pressure relief valve. I was a bit concerned about that, as Corey warned me that most do not come with it and the valve is $60 by itself.

I'll be pulling my master cylinder and the booster this weekend for clean up and assembly. Will keep you gents advised on how it all went.

John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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Rembrant
Cool stuff John! Can't wait to see how you like it!
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Machspeed
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Appreciated your input on this subject, Corey.  
John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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grumpin
Cool! I’m interested in the outcome.
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Gary Lewis
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Excellent!  Should be an easy swap.  And, if you had my setup, you could pressure-bleed the system with air pressure.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ArdWrknTrk
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Looking good!

John, did you order directly from Ford?
What are the two marks on the rear of the reservoir?
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Machspeed
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ArdWrknTrk wrote
Looking good!

John, did you order directly from Ford?
What are the two marks on the rear of the reservoir?
No Jim, ordered it off of Amazon, as I had some other things I needed. As to the two black marks, don't have clue. Frankly, was not happy to see them on there too! I'll be attempting to remove them before installation.  
John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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Machspeed
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Test fitted the line fittings today to confirm that they were the correct threads. They are! Also noted that I have enough brake line such that the required location change will not be an issue. I think I can put this sucker in and make it look factory!



 
John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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Gary Lewis
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Yippee!  You are now in the same boat as I - you'll need to keep a list of all the "upgrades" so when someone has to go to the part store they can get the right part.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Rembrant
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Cool. It's a very worthwhile swap in my opinion.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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ArdWrknTrk
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Glad it's worked out for you, John!  
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Machspeed
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Replaced both the brake booster and upgraded the master cylinder. With my factory lines, it was a direct bolt on with absolutely no modifications required. Only change I had to make was a small adjustment to the booster rod which is very important! I'll be doing a full right up on it soon.

Didn't like the nasty looking booster so pulled it and attempted to clean it up and repaint. It was badly pitted and I struggled to remove the old paint. I also think it was a source for a vacuum leak so I decided to replace it too. But, the paint on the new booster was garbage so I prepped it and sprayed it with two coats of my favorite epoxy. I still need to bleed the system, but that won't happen until I get a few other things done.




John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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Gary Lewis
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But bleeding will be easy!

On the rod, did you read the writeup on Documentation/Driveline/Brakes and then the Master Cyls & Booster tab and then the Push Rod Adjustment tab?  That adjustment is critical.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Machspeed
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Gary Lewis wrote
But bleeding will be easy!

On the rod, did you read the writeup on Documentation/Driveline/Brakes and then the Master Cyls & Booster tab and then the Push Rod Adjustment tab?  That adjustment is critical.
Yes, watched a couple videos too!
John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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Rembrant
I had to adjust the rod out on mine a little bit as well when I installed the aluminum master.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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kramttocs
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Looks great!
What is that thing tucked behind the speed control unit?
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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ArdWrknTrk
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Bbbbbbuuut!                                            the orange can of death.  ðŸ˜²
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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ArdWrknTrk
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 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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