Dual position mirror [E0TZ-17696-D] - NOS

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1986F150Six
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Gary Lewis
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The catalog shows it for 1980 through '89, but the squared mirror head was only used until '84, I think.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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1986F150Six
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My son's 1984 came with the more rounded "aero" mirror heads, so maybe it was 1983 and back?
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Gary Lewis
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The "aero" mirrors are actually referred to as 5" x 8" in the catalog, and the usable glass measures that.  The angular mirrors are called 6" x 9" in the catalog and the usable glass is 5 5/8" x 8 5/8".

The aero mirrors were introduced in '82 according to the catalog, although they have an E3 (1983) prefix in the '94 version of the catalog, as seen here: Exterior/Exterior Mirrors.  [I could climb the microfiche tower to see if they had an E2 # originally, but there are other fiche to fry.  ]  And, while on that page check out the new Mirror Options tab, which has some info from the 1982 Light Truck Facts book.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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salans7
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1982 was the last year for those mirror heads. It's an easy way to identify an 82 because it will have a blue oval in the grille, no hood letters, and it will have the newer style emblems, and yet it will have the 80-81 mirror heads (when equipped with the swing-lock style mirrors).

1982 was also the last year for the 6.6 400 V8. ;)
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Gary Lewis
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Shaun -  Interesting! I didn't realize those "angular" mirrors weren't used after '82.  I'm going to have to look at the dealer facts books to get my head around the mirror options.  May have to put that info on the page as well.  
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Rembrant
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Were these mirrors by any chance also available in black? I've seen them on trucks for sale online, and I always thought they were aftermarket replacements. Cool to know they were factory. It seems though that a lot of the ones I see are black...likely painted by the owner that way, I guess.

Edit: The very next thread I looked at on here had a truck with a set of these mirrors in black:

http://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/1985-F150-Oregon-tp22879.html
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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Here's the Type 9 entry from the page, and from the MPC, and there were 6x9's in black - the "single position" ones.
 
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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1986F150Six
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Gary Lewis
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Yup, E1TZ-A should be black, and that one is.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Gary Lewis
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Shaun - As the phrase goes, I can neither confirm nor deny that 1982 was the last year for the 6" x 9" angular mirrors.  But, while the MPC says that they were used from 1980 on, the dealer fact books appear to refute that.  Unfortunately while my 1983 facts book's Options & Accessories section starts at "T", the 1984 book is complete and there's no mention of the 6"x9" mirrors as an option.

So, that would appear to confirm it.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: Dual position mirror [E0TZ-17696-D] - NOS

salans7
Unfortunately it's hard to confirm something like that, due to varying leftover availability of parts at each factory. Kinda like how 1996 wasn't technically the last year of the OBS F-Series, and also why the F600+ trucks carried 1980-1986 dashes and door panels all the way until 1999. Dealer upgrades and swap-outs can make a difference too.

If you ever take a look at the 1980-1981 brochures, you'll notice a third option, which is similar if not an exactg match to the 1978-1979 square head mirrors, like shown below. Yet, I have seen very few, if any actual 1980-1981 trucks wearing that style of mirror.




http://oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/FMC%20Trucks-Vans/1980_Trucks-Vans/1980%20Ford%20Pickup%20Brochure/image5.html


Now that I look at the brochure again, I see there's a fourth option, which is also borrowed from the later Dentside trucks and Broncos. Again, I've seen very few of these in my internet travels.
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Steve83
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The ones in the original post (the eBay listing https://www.ebay.com/itm/392244467176 ) are normal chiselled-head mirrors on a hi-low recreation arm, but with the rare 2-position added arm and 3-bolt mounting pads.





Both of those are shown in that brochure, but I don't see where the 2-position is mentioned.  The standard (crappy car-size) mirror is on the brochure's cover.  The western low-mount is mentioned, but I don't see it.



Those black ones don't look like OE mirrors - the heads are screwed to the swivel balls, and the door mounting pads are flat (no lip to hide the plastic gaskets).  Also: the upper section of the hi-lo arm is not horizontal; it angles down, relative to the door surface.
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salans7
Those black mirrors are from a 78-79 F-Series truck, maybe earlier. I've come across them on numerous trucks of that era, so I believe them to be original since I've seen them in both the 78-79 literature, as well as the 80-81 literature.

Looking at the brochure, most of the swing lock mirrors that are shown look to be from 78-79.