Bullnose FAQ's

[Gary Lewis]

Folks - I've been struggling with an "organizational" question on the website (not the forum if you understand the distinction) and need your input.

In the navigation menu I have one item called Oddities.  And the only thing in there is the page on the 1982 - 84 F100 Pony, which probably should have been named Unicorn as no one seems to have seen one.  Anyway, I don't like having single pages under a page, but don't want to lose the info on the Pony.

At the same time I've been trying to come up with a place to house information on the Bullnose trucks, including the year-by-year stuff I put on the Specifications page.  In addition, I want to write up the evolution of the term "Bullnose" as I don't think that's been properly done anywhere - and several of us know the details.

So, what about creating another page in the navigation menu called Bullnose FAQ's and under it put the stuff I'm talking about?  Like:

Bullnose FAQ's

  - Evolution of the term "Bullnose"

  - Year-By-Year History

  - My Little Pony

[Gary Lewis]

And, I've already started.  See what you think.  However, it is currently hidden in the nav menu so you'll have to use this link: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/bullnose-faqs.html

[ctubutis]

It's a good start, Gary, thank you! :)

[Ford F834]

Neat page Gary! I just gave it a quick look and learned a thing or two 😉👍

[Gary Lewis]

Thanks, guys.  I finished the Pony part of the page, made that page visible in the nav, deleted the other pages, and set up a 301 redirect for them to the new page.

[LARIAT 85]

In regards to the "Yearly Differences?" tab about feedback carburetors:

According to my 1984 Ford F-Series brochure, the EEC-IV computer (and feedback carburetor) was only used on the standard 5.8L engine with the 2V carburetor.  

In November of 1983, the 5.8L H.O. debuted (with the 4V carburetor and DuraSpark II ignition).


The early 1985 F-Series brochure lists the 4.9L Six, 5.0L [2V] V8 and the 5.8L [2V] V8 as having an EEC-IV computer (and feedback carburetor), with the 5.8L H.O. and the 460 as the only engines without.

Then, the 5.0 [2V] and 5.8 [2V] were both dropped in favor of the 5.0 [EFI] in November of 1984.


A LOT of changes for the Ford F-Series truck during this time...

[Gary Lewis]

Thanks, Rick.  Please see if you agree with the changes I made: Bullnose FAQ's.

Also, because of your meddling/upgrade () I added a page: Electrical/Ignition Modules.  I wanted to see if I could figure out the EEC-III and EEC-IV system introduction dates, but didn't really do so.  

[1986F150Six]

Hmmmmm? The 1984 4.9L was equipped with the feedback carburetor as well.

[Gary Lewis]

What years?

[1986F150Six]

1984 - 1986 for the 49 state calibration [I believe].

Others have reported that California models may have come earlier.

[Gary Lewis]

So, since the format is what changed when, I should say that the feedback carb was introduced on the 4.9L in '84 on the 49-states version?

[1986F150Six]

Yes, my son's original 1984 still has the complete feedback system. As far as I know, this is when the change was introduced.

[LARIAT 85]

Looks good, Chief.  Except:


The EEC-IV equipped engines didn't use a yellow grommet module.  They used the

TFI = Thick Film Integrated ignition system, which has the ignition module bolted to the side of the distributor that works with a

Motorcraft 2150A  = "feedback" carburetor.


Capiche?

[Gary Lewis]

Ok, I added that the 4.9L got the feedback carb in '84, fixed the TFI to be thick, and added the A to the 2150.  Right?

Is that all ya got?  

[LARIAT 85]

I *think* the EEC-III was used from 1981 - 1983 on California models.  These used a brown grommet module and the standard DuraSpark II coil with a feedback carburetor.  Ralph (1981-F-150-Explorer) had this system on his truck.

Also, according to my 1984 Ford F-Series brochure, there was not a "Lariat" model.  The top-of-the line model this year was simply called the XLT.

[Gary Lewis]

You, sir, are correct.  Here's the catalog entry for the EEC-III computer.

And, I added the bit about the Lariat coming out in '85 to the FAQ's page.

[Ford F834]

Gary, this was in my local yard... 1982 F150 with feedback I-6:







The other '82 I-6's I've seen were not feedback, but by 1983 it seems to have been standard. Ralph had some pretty good information in this thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1068301-what-year-did-they-start-using-computers.html

On a slightly different note, there is a Norwegian guy on Facebook looking for a flareside to make into a XLS clone. He says he does not want a 1980 because the metal was not galvanized where as 1981+ was. This is the first I have heard of such a thing. Any comments?

[LARIAT 85]

1986F150Six is correct.  I looked at my 1984 brochure again, and it states:

"...the 4.9L Six is now controlled by the sophisticated EEC-IV electronic engine control system."


So, it seems that that both the 4.9L Six and the 5.8L V8 (2V) got the EEC-IV system with a feedback carburetor for 1984.  No mention of the 5.0L V8 (2V) having the EEC-IV engine computer that year.  It was mentioned in the early 1985 brochure, though.


There *was* a "Lariat" model in 1982 and 1983.  Apparently, Ford dropped that name in 1984, and then brought it back out for 1985 and 1986.  Strange.

[Gary Lewis]

Interesting.  I do have the '81 brochure and there was a Ranger Lariat.  In the '82 brochure there was a Lariat w/o the Ranger since that was a small truck.

Wish I had 1983, 1984, and 1986 brochures.  

Anyway, I updated the FAQ's drop the Lariat in '84.

[LARIAT 85]

Another change you can add to your "Yearly Differences" tab:  

In 1986, the lights on/door open "buzzer" changed to a "chime" for the XL and XLT Lariat models.  

The standard pickup carried on with the buzzer.  

(source:  1986 Ford F-Series brochure)


I noticed that you list 1983 as the year the "Lariat" name was dropped.  How did you find this out?  And, I wonder why that name wasn't used for 1983 and 1984?