1986 7.5l AC Help

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1986 7.5l AC Help

Bullnose Gator
I am trying to get the AC going.  It had factory AC, but the previous owner deleted the compressor and hoses.  Based on everything I've learned from digging through the documentation here, I need the items below. Please let me know if I'm missing anything, or if the parts I have found are wrong. I am a novice at all of this, so interpreting manuals/part lists/wiring diagrams is pretty difficult for me. Anything yall can point me in the right direction on is appreciated.  

Things I CANNOT find:

Compressor bracket - mine appears to be partially still there, see pic below:



Discharge Hose
Suction Hose
Compressor Hose Manifold (if needed, not sure)
Missing Wiring - I'm not even clear on what I missing, best I can tell is the C113/C228 connectors and related wiring/harnesses per the diagram, see pics below:





Compressor/Accumulator/Orifice Tube Kit:

http://https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09BLC4TB5/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=A2W1Y8J5EFZAEH&psc=1

Condenser:

http://https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CKSXVQ/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Evaporator Core:

http://https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BN9TX6PS/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_3?smid=A31B1NF333K7B&psc=1

Liquid Line (available several places)
 
Here are some more pics under the hood if it helps you help me, thanks in advance!





After I removed the accumulator:





Jeremy - Oviedo, FL
1986 F250 XLT Lariat Supercab 4x4 Manual 460
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

salans7
It looks like you're missing just the adjusting/tension bracket at the front. I couldn't see any single brackets on Ebay, and I'm not sure how available those are.

If you would like, I have my setup out of the truck currently, so I could trace that part onto some card-stock and measure it with my caliper so you can have one made. I can then send you the card-stock with the measurements on it. Just let me know.
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

viven44
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I can tell you the wiring is not complex at all.

The green wire is for the compressor clutch voltage. Should receive alternator voltage when the dash control switch is selected for AC. It is not clear in your picture but the green wire should run to the low side pressure switch and then onto the AC compressor.

The black wire is just a ground, just use a multimeter and see if it is connected to battery ground. Looks like the harness may be missing. You can rig up your own or buy something like this

The listing below shows it as a diesel harness but there is nothing special about a diesel vs gas for a AC harness. The one below should work if I am not mistaken.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175161979301?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=54X_PI88Q_C&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=nUjJ1bE2RVS&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

You can maybe find a parts truck to pull this harness from or make your own but that listing gives you an idea of what you need

You can use this harness to connect to the compressor end if you rig up your own (I did that recently)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C5CCNG/?coliid=I347QAMH3XAQ66&colid=3IGQF00LDI4AO&psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_lstpd_P7KTPJ6S6940WV0ACXW7


About the orifice tube, o-reilly sells a 10 pack for $8.. it will slide into the long neck that runs to the evaporator, but watch out if that neck is bent any, it is a pain to install this orifice tube

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/murray-climate-control/air-conditioning---heating/orifice-tube/9fafe9a5178b/murray-climate-control-blue-a-c-orifice-tube/mryp/621/v/a/5316/automotive-truck-1984-ford-f-250?q=orifice+tube&pos=3
Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

Bullnose Gator
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That would be awesome of you, thanks my man!
Jeremy - Oviedo, FL
1986 F250 XLT Lariat Supercab 4x4 Manual 460
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

salans7
Bullnose Gator wrote
That would be awesome of you, thanks my man!
Okay, I'll draw it up and then reach out via email for an address. The email function on the forum is spotty, so make sure to check your junk folders too.

I did remember that there's a large black half moon bracket that you're also missing. There's a complete set on Ebay that also has some of the smaller support brackets you may also be missing. It might be a good option for you as it's not too expensive and you can always attempt to re-sell the individual parts to those in your current situation that only need a piece or two. I'll leave that choice up to you.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256482472562?itmmeta=01HZJYATZWTMGFBDW8W71YXB7K&hash=item3bb78bf272:g:c0oAAOSw~lNmHyY3&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8C0avJS7TgaiYIexraaCBxVVqlmZu319hZwmZyVXM3oIB08lFbb1XlplCVLkYN6Kuwob8vy%2BgkCqeZyqXeHwSPtfSCW1acGbMNXr%2F1BvuAF3lhoCWiGJEothxJ1miujrrbbNfg1heKoe2VGxGmhEIeflzZh2Uoos3upcMGDuNldoSBj2yC%2FVmwLjt7uPKeJweSIOsGOf86j4EoP59daGTvpDEpKvFAOEFrGGWvxToXUBXD0ldt9CAlob5SpMLYyetr08UhNCwy%2F5oFxMdF8dv%2B2vq3LQ5ZcevBEf9Ac5hFfXM%2FuGhaTmoq2BcBZHpMY3yQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4ywq978Yw

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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

Mekerek
I have the same truck engine and ac. I also have the Ford parts list and illustration. I can get both posted tomorrow for you to get what you need a or part numbers.

Brent
1984 Ford F-350 7.5L XLT 4x4 Standard Cab Dump Bed
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

Bullnose Gator
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Man, thanks so much for that.
Jeremy - Oviedo, FL
1986 F250 XLT Lariat Supercab 4x4 Manual 460
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

Bullnose Gator
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That would be a HUGE help, thank you!
Jeremy - Oviedo, FL
1986 F250 XLT Lariat Supercab 4x4 Manual 460
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

Mekerek
I knew I had seen it here .. that's why this forum is so great.

Documentation -> HVAC -> Factory A/C Brackets - Gas V8s... there you go.
1984 Ford F-350 7.5L XLT 4x4 Standard Cab Dump Bed
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

Bullnose Gator
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I just found a 1986 F250 4x4 automatic parts truck. The bracket looks a little different, but i assume the compressor wiring harness and hoses are usable (or copyable) for mine.  Can I make this work?

Jeremy - Oviedo, FL
1986 F250 XLT Lariat Supercab 4x4 Manual 460
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

salans7
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The brackets would definitely be wrong, but the wiring will probably match up fine. I can't speak for the lines though.

I finished the "template" for the missing bracket if you're still interested. I did attempt to send an email through the forum (which can be spotty), but it was returned stating your email was full, so I doubt you received it.

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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

viven44
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Those lines do look like they will work. They seem to have the correct angles for the FS10 compressor

But You can make any line work with a vintage air u-Bend-Em line extension -- Example
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/vta-12519-vcd?rrec=true

As to the sizes, normally the suction side (low side) uses #10 and discharge side (high side) uses #8
http://www.gpdtechtips.com/uploads/8/2/8/2/82823116/137_-_ac_hose_thread_fitting_chart.pdf

You will need R134a service port fittings however that hook up to the FS10 compressor that replaces the original service ports with built in valves.

Highly recommend 'John' aka Mr. FOMOCO on eBay who used to be a Ford district manager and runs a retirement eBay gig. He is local to me. He sells a lot of these fittings. You can call him at 214-632-8206 and he will set you up with the correct adapters for a FS10. He sold Dentside and Bullnose trucks when they were new

https://www.ebay.com/str/mrfomocomotorcraft

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

Bullnose Gator
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Thanks. If I'm looking at this right, I'll need the parts/bolts circled yellow, and I think the ones circled blue, right? If so, it's probably best if I just buy that complete one off ebay you linked.

Jeremy - Oviedo, FL
1986 F250 XLT Lariat Supercab 4x4 Manual 460
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

Bullnose Gator
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This is great stuff, thank you!
Jeremy - Oviedo, FL
1986 F250 XLT Lariat Supercab 4x4 Manual 460
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Re: 1986 7.5l AC Help

salans7
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Yes, you're missing quite a bit of the parts, so it is likely better that you buy the kit on Ebay and then resell what you don't use.