Can't stress this enough. It even applies to the guys putting 20" wheels on these trucks. I think they look awful, but not my truck, not my problem. My truck is technically a bricknose but I prefer bullnose trucks so I'm building it as a bullnose, and I prefer the 80-81 trucks so I'm building it as an 80-81. |
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Coyote 5.0 swapped ‘68 Bronco...
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SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD
STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2 |
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They make 4x4 coyote trucks. Basically I am torn on going all out making a 2wd sport truck, or doing a 4x4. If I did a 2x4 coyote, I would want to do a crown vic front suspension swap.
Chris McGaugh
1982 F-150 XLS Flareside 1985 Bronco XLT "Lariat" 1986 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe 1989 F-250HD XLT Lariat Super Cab 1994 F-150 XLT Lightning |
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Do you have a write up on doing a 19 gal dual tank setup on a short box?
Chris McGaugh
1982 F-150 XLS Flareside 1985 Bronco XLT "Lariat" 1986 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe 1989 F-250HD XLT Lariat Super Cab 1994 F-150 XLT Lightning |
Dave can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe his front tank is still the factory 16 gallon. He added the 19 gallon rear tank. The Styleside short box trucks were available with the rear tank, it's just that the Flaresides were not. Dave did some pretty crafty work grafting the 2nd fuel filler door into the Flareside fiberglass fender. Again, Dave can correct me here, but I think it would be really difficult to swap a 19 gallon front/side tank into a short box truck.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold. 1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021. 1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995 |
Cory you are right. There is not enough room to use a 19 gal side tank in place of the 16 gall on a short wheel bed truck, I tried. I used everything from my long bed parts truck rear 19 gal fuel system. Beside the tank & straps the cross member just in front of the tank is different, IIRC it has the slots for the straps. Wiring is also different from the main harness across the dash to the switch and the one that runs down the frame as it is also setup for duel, 2 gauge sender wires and fuel switch valve. I used all this from my parts truck. Could you make a harness to do this? I guess you could but it would be work. For the filler door my brother sent me part of the glass fender w/door and the filler neck parts to the top of the tank from the front tank from a flare side. I cut the hole in the fender and glassed in this door to look factory. On the filler necks I had the mickey mouse setup my truck came with, the front & rear style side parts truck and the parts my brother sent with the filler door. I think I used the parts my brother sent to fix the front factory tank to be factory, hard part is the fill / vent setup the factory uses. With the left over parts I came up with the rear that would work. Again making sure the factory fill / vent would work as it should. I even used the evap system from the duel tank truck right down to the 2 charcoal canisters under the battery. I know a few others have done this but they don't get into the wiring / dash switch or the fill necks / epav / switching valve setup. For me it was easy as I had the parts truck with duel tanks I took everything from Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1 81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100 |
Awesome write up! Thank you for the info on the 16 vs 19 gallon side tank. I figured it would be too big for the short wheel base.
Chris McGaugh
1982 F-150 XLS Flareside 1985 Bronco XLT "Lariat" 1986 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe 1989 F-250HD XLT Lariat Super Cab 1994 F-150 XLT Lightning |
To tell you I did not have a "write up" before I just posted what I did in my build thread and I may not have even gotten that deep into it on here as I did in another forum but again it was just a bit in passing.
This is a lot better "write up" of what I did to add the rear tank on a flare side. For me having the parts truck to take everything from was a god send as I don't know if I would have added it other wise. The other thing I was looking into was a 38 gallon rear tank. Only issue with that is where to place the spare tire? With the factory 19 gallon rear tank I can still mount the spare under it. I don't have a wheel that fits my truck or it would be mounted. As for the 19 gallon side tank it would have been nice if it fit but with the 19 gallon rear and the amount I have been or will be driving the truck I don't think a 19 gallon side tank will be needed. I also don't know why Ford used the 16 gallon side tank and not the 19 gallon rear tank or both like I did? Just after I got the truck on the road 2 weeks ago the rear tank sender stopped working. I filled both tanks up and been running it off the rear tank to run it dry so I can drop it to fix. I just fixed the speedo so don't know how far I have gone but just guessing between 150 & 200 miles. Because we will not be driving them all over like we did back in the 80's when new do we really need 40 gallons of gas other than to say we can? Then again the guys with big v8's may wish they had 80 gallons LOL Sorry for the rambling Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1 81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100 |
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I do. & I do! Believe me, it's not as if I haven't considered getting a transfer tank for the bed. The idea of 100+ gallons of high test right outside my rear slider put me off to it.
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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Ditto! I'll have 19 gallons mid-ship and 38 gallons in the rear on Big Blue. I plan to drive the wheels off the truck on many long trips, and at the hoped-for 14 MPG the range of a 19 gallon tank isn't going to cut it.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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It’s nice to have plenty of gas. Going to Winnemucca Nevada in our 1978 E150 with a 351W, get to Denio Junction and no gas, their tanks didn’t meet code and they couldn’t afford new ones.
Didn’t have enough to get to the next stop which I think was Winnemucca. Had to go north to Fields Oregon to fuel up. Quite the add on! In Winnemucca I bought two five gallon gas cans, filled them and carried them on the roof rack to get home.
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold 1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD 1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E Arizona |
OK so a hand full will be driving them but most I think have them for weekend runs to the dump or get dirt, stone, wood for home projects.
I had a 76 E350 I added a 2nd tank but with a 460/C6 pulling a 2 car trailer to races you needed it. Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1 81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100 |
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I guess my handle needs no explanation! 🤣
All go and no show, is my everyday.
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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A 460 in a van? Cool!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold 1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD 1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E Arizona |
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Was pretty popular, actually.
That's where I got my Saginaw setup.
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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