The Camano Experience

[kramttocs]

Referring back to this ^ post.
Turns out Ford did make an adapter for Fuse slots 2/3....and they aren't uncommon.
Was wondering a pick and pull while waiting for my flywheel to be resurfaced and rung gear swapped.
They only had one picked over bullnose but had a number of later years.
Found these while looking them over.


Stamped: F5TB-14417-AA



So Jim, you are saying that eventually after some more time and money, I will be back to working like it was stock before I started spending time and money

[ArdWrknTrk]

I'm sure it's better than it was when it rolled off the line, all those years ago.

[Gary Lewis]

So they came out in '95?  And they are used in the in-cab fuse box?

[kramttocs]

Yep. I would have to check online but I think 2/3 were the wiper motor and the tps. If the truck didn't have the spacer and a fuse then they had a big circuit breaker.
Makes me curious how far in advance vehicle manufacturers plan out future applications. Or do they just make use of what is unused?

[Gary Lewis]

I think it was the latter.  They realized they had 2 & 3 available and used them.

[kramttocs]

Haven't done a lot on the 86 over the past couple of months but I did get the vacuum advance switch mounted to the carb plate using some stand offs.
Since this is activated off the A/C Selector Switch circuit (wire that goes to the pressure switch) I converted that LG/P wire to be a relay trigger and am now feeding the pressure switch and the vacuum advance switch off one of the relays in the passenger side ssVEC. They don't pull enough to warrant a relay but I needed to tie in anyways and the relay box was right there. So now the 30A factory heater/ac circuit is now doing nothing but triggering two relays



Also finally hooked the heater core back up with new hoses and the new stainless spring clamps. That only took 6 months to do....

Then some bad news. Hadn't driven the truck since I got back into town from the Big Brutus event but took it out Saturday morning to drop off recycling. Got about a mile down the road an my radio rebooted (android touchscreen). Glanced at the gauges and noticed my voltmeter was pegged out. Pulled over, killed it, restarted and same thing. It was almost maxed out at idle and went off the charts with a little throttle. Pulled the midi fuse for the alt, dropped off recycling and headed to O'Reilly's to get the alt tested. When I put the fuse back in and started it up for the test, it didn't register anything at all now. Test showed bad diodes.

Grab a new one off the shelf while I was there you say? If only. Well, I knew the Powermaster 1 wire was going to get me someday but I didn't expect it to happen with under 4000 miles on the truck.
Removed the fuse and drove it back home. As frustrating as it is, especially after warnings of the like , fortunately it happened so close to home.

Everything is already setup for the 3g upgrade with the exception of the excite wire. So last night I did some quick terminal swaps in the ssVEC so the LG/R wire that was only going to a fuse connecting it to the R/O wire for the voltmeter is now going to a relay. This relay output now splits - one leg going to the R/O voltmeter fuse and the other into a connector that will hook to the 3G harness.
So things are now setup according to the recommended practice

Looks like DB is OOS on the afd0028 right now so may have to look around.

Gary - is this the one you are running along with Jim? I was thinking you have a stock 130A but couldn't recall which model (maybe it's in stock if different).

Jim - with us running the same L&L brackets, nothing changes with having to deal with the thicker ear correct? I will still have to modify the bracket?

[kramttocs]

Today I took the 1 wire to O'Reilly's and Autozone. Neither could test it off the truck but what was more concerning is that neither had the Taurus 3G in stock. Just wanted to do some visual comparisons. Local availability in a pinch was a big reason I was going to move from the 1 wire to the 3G. Maybe I am looking for the wrong model...

Going to go ahead and send my 1 wire to Powermaster tomorrow. If they can fix it for a reasonable price, I'll go that route but will still make up a 3G harness to have on hand now that I have the excite wire for it with a mp280 plug.

[Bruce moose4x4]

Scott, I've got a 3G off a 94 Taurus wagon I saved from a crusher car out in the shop. What were you wanting to compare? You can text me if you like and I could take pics and send them to you.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Not the L&L bracket, just the slotted J adjuster arm.
I hammered mine so it had 1/4" less offset, because the 3G mounting ear is about 1/4" thicker than my old 2G alternator.

Given I now have the L&L bracket I could probably get away with the 7" C-C mount, but with the 8.25 spread my adjuster bolt is not close to either end and easy to reach.

I hope you can get your alternator serviced quickly!  

[Bruce moose4x4]

Scott, Accurate Electric in Springfield can fix your powermaster. 864-5606

[kramttocs]

Bruce - I appreciate that. It was actually the flange thickness I wanted to confirm and looks like Jim addressed that. If anything else comes up, I'll shoot you a text

Thanks Jim. So just the bottom needs adjusted. Good to know. I don't think it was 1/4 but I had to shim that J arm out so I might be able to remove the shim and be halfway there.

Just for reference, here is the PowerMaster Ford Upgrade dimensions:

[kramttocs]

That's great news Bruce! I'd much rather go that route and be ahead on shipping. Will them tomorrow first thing.

[ArdWrknTrk]

I don't see where it's showing you how thick the ear at 12:00 is.

Perhaps I can take some measurements for you tomorrow, if it isn't raining.

[kramttocs]

You're right. I should have looked at it closer. I'll do the same with mine and add it to the image.

[kramttocs]

Just heard back from Accurate Electric and there was a short in the rotor. Sounds like it's somewhat special equipment so he is going to try and get parts from them and go from there.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Hey, can you give Pete Whitestone some Powermaster advice in his climate control connector thread?

He just bought a 100A one wire Powermaster and obviously doesn't have any instructions on how to install or hook it up.

[Gary Lewis]

Its the "somewhat special equipment" bit that worries me.  How 'bout asking him what he'd do if a 3G came in with a similar problem?  Is that an easy fix?

Sure enjoyed seeing my voltmeter sit perfectly still on this trip.  Ran the A/C the whole way and the voltage never wavered, even when at idle w/the A/C on.

[Bruce moose4x4]

Scott, Not sure who you talked to at Accurate. I used to deal with Steve,  but that has been several years ago. If it was Steve, tell him I said hello. I haven't been out there much since I quit Wrenching on Firetrucks in 2004.

[kramttocs]

Hey guys. Any emails going to me from last night until about 5pm today went into the ether. Was making some domain changes and messed up my mx records. So thanks for tagging me in Pete's thread this evening Jim as I'd missed all those.

Gary - I hope to get some more detail on that when either he tells me he can or can't get parts from Powermaster. I'll ask about the 3G when I hear back from him.

Bruce - I can't recall his name but he was great to talk with. Seemed very knowledgeable and honest. Appreciate the recommendation and if it is Steve, I'll make sure to mention you.

[Rembrant]

kramttocs wrote

So Jim, you are saying that eventually after some more time and money, I will be back to working like it was stock before I started spending time and money

Hahaha. I like this comment! It reminds me of my three-on-the-tree steering column. I spent hundreds of dollars on obscure NOS parts that I waited weeks to get, and then carefully rebuilt the whole column, and in the end it worked about 3% better than before when it was all sloppy and loose...lol.