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Gary Lewis
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Yep, I understand exactly what you are saying.  And I plan to incorporate that feature as well when I install a security system.  

Another advantage of the style of Ford box I used is the megafuse, which simplifies the 3G conversion.  But not all of those boxes have that, so you have to pick and choose at the salvage.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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You are absolutely right about the megafuse. That is a good consolidation feature for those that have it.

Did a little wiring on the truck last night.
I want to run half of the new box's relays off the main battery for flexibility just like I have the other box split in half between batteries. Since I already had a 1/0 cable from the main battery going to the Smart Isolator near the brake booster, made sense to use it instead of running another one since the odds of overloading that cable are slim.

The problem was that with the magnalug on the 1/0 there wasn't any room on the isolator's stud to add the 2awg terminal that would go to the ssVEC. There was barely enough room for the 1/0 terminal and still have threads leftover.



Ordered a solenoid stud repair post that is basically a standoff. Screwed this on in place of the nut, installed the 2awg terminal and then installed the nut. Didn't show the last two steps since the terminal cover hides them.




This part number was AB-506D. This is for the fine thread but they also have a coarse thread offering. These are marketed for tractor applications.


Another edge case not really worth mentioning I know but I may run into this again in a year and need the number



Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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Looks great, Scott.  But where did you get those boots?  I badly need some for Big Blue as it is only a matter of time before a drop a tool on there.  In fact, I'm thinking about creating a clear plexiglass cover for the smart isolator.

Anyway, I like those studs.  And, I fully understand capturing part numbers in your thread.  Not only does it help others, but you can go back and find them.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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The different boots I've bought for the starter, alternator, and isolator were from Zoro and Amazon.

Amazon had the Fastronix 5/16" - 1/4" Stud Terminal Covers

I bought most of my magnalug stuff from Zoro and those covers were:

Terminal Protector, Plug-In, PVC, Red, PK5

Terminal Protector, Red, 4 Ga Stud, PK5

Terminal Protector, Battery 1-2 Ga, PK5

I am not positive I used some from all of them though.

I agree - those terminals are just right there waiting for something to happen. I like the shield idea. One thing that surprised me was how warm that thing gets when engaged. It makes sense but wasn't expecting it the first time.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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Thanks.  I really need to spend some time cleaning my installations up with boots and covers - before I have an accident.

And yes, that Smart Isolator runs warm.  Surprised me as well.

Hmmmm, what about printing a guard for it?  Could it press onto the little studs in front and stay?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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I really like the idea of printing a snap on guard for it. I don't see why it wouldn't work. Sadly I am having a bear of a time getting ABS to print without lifting. That may be a fun winter project.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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I took today and tomorrow off to get some stuff done around the house but ended up spending this morning at the JY since the weather was so nice. There was a new F250 and Bronco there since last time. The Bronco had some decent options so grabbed another tach cluster and clock.
The F250 though....it wasn't much to look at but had one little piece that made my day (doesn't take much I guess).




I've seen a few speed senders/signal generators as well as jy trucks that have the add-on speed control, but I've never seen a sender like this. The black end (threaded over male threads on the sender) slips directly onto the speedometer gauge. The other end, as seen in the photo, matches the speedometer gauge connection so the white clip on the speedometer cable latches to it. So this sender lives inside the dash vs in the engine bay or near the transmission/tcase.

The reason this is exciting is because of the GVOD and the number of wires I have going through the grommet (gutted EFI grommet) as well as the future wires I am planning to run through there. Right now that grommet is packed tight.

Currently there are two senders down at the overdrive for the GVOD and factory speed control, along with a coupler and short speedometer jumper to make up for the added overdrive length.

This will allow me to almost directly connect the new sender to the GVOD control box behind the dash, remove a cat6 sized wire from the grommet and clean up the cable down by the overdrive. That cat6 sized wire being removed will allow a handful of light gauge wires to be passed through there.

I installed it tonight, hooked up some test jumper wires and ran the drill on the speedometer cable to confirm the GVOD engaged at the correct speed - which it thankfully did.

If anyone has seen a sender like this and knows the part number, please share.

I don't blame you if you don't find this all that exciting

Other than that, I've been giving Chanute some much needed attention so will probably start a thread on it soon.

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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I've never seen a sender like that.  That's cool.  Does it have a number on it?  Maybe I can crossref.

As for Chanute, when Jim called the other day he asked about that truck but I said I've not seen anything about it lately.  It needs some LUV!  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ArdWrknTrk
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That's really interesting Scott.
I've never seen anything like it either.

But I guess there's plenty of room behind the cluster for it to fit without kinking?
That extra length must make it a whole lot easier to reach behind and disconnect the cable!
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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kramttocs
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Unfortunately the only thing I found on the sender was an ink stamping of Jun 93. Going to take a quick trip  back to the jy in the morning so will see if the speed control brain has anything on it.
Jim - Surprisingly there is a decent amount of room back there so this doesn't make the bend much more than it was already.

Removed the original signal generator wire and wired up the new one - went from a 10' run to under 6". Then called speedometerscableusa with the specs of the new jumper so that should be shipped out Monday.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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ArdWrknTrk
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Scott
I wasn't doubting there was room to fit, just wondering if the extra length forced more bend into the cable, given that the firewall grommet on mine is pretty tight.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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kramttocs
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Gotcha. No, doesn't seem to impact the angle much more than without.

The box didn't yield anything identifying beyond a serial number. With a little eBay searching, found that they (both box and sensor) very closely match those in Ford speed control kits for mid 80's cars (crown Vic, ltd, escort, lynx).
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Wow! That is a neat find! I think that’s a much better place for it, too, than the engine bay or under the truck. Would be nice to know what that thing is!
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Gary Lewis wrote
I've never seen a sender like that.  That's cool.  Does it have a number on it?  Maybe I can crossref.

As for Chanute, when Jim called the other day he asked about that truck but I said I've not seen anything about it lately.  It needs some LUV!  
Is it E4AZ-9E731-A?
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Gary Lewis
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Hmmmm.  The envelope says ......  By golly, I think you are right!  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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Excellent find! And they are even reasonably priced
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis wrote
I've never seen a sender like that.  That's cool.  Does it have a number on it?  Maybe I can crossref.
Is that the sender for dealer installed cruise?

I seem to recall looking at a dealer cruise kit on Ebay, and the sender that came with it attached to the back of the speedo in the cluster.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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kramttocs
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I think that is a very good possibility. Looks like they may have been added to cars primarily.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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Gary Lewis
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Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kramttocs
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Ordered a couple of those sensors for backups

Truck hasn't moved for quite awhile, partially because I haven't really gone anywhere but also because I decided it was time to check the brakes/bearings on the trailer. That led to wanting to redo all the wiring 'just because'. So now there is a 22' trailer up on jack stands waiting on bearings/races blocking the truck in

My short speedometer cable jumper came in last week so that's all back installed. This is to replace the speed sensor previously mentioned.


Then today the Woolwax kit I ordered came in. Before I can spray that though I want to apply some Eastwood inner frame coating to a few areas (under bed rails, rear wheel wells). Running out of warm weather though...

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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