Radio Plugs

[MotorsportXLT]

Hello, this is my first time posting on this form! I haven’t been on FTE or this form for a while, but I thought I’d start again. So ever since I have bought my 94 lightning I keep adding the features that I like from it to my 85 bronco. Right now I have the factory auto dim mirror, and soon to have duel sun visors. My next thing I would like to  add is the factory94 premium sound radio set up. Supposedly online I was reading that 86-96 have the same radio plugs plugs. I was just wondering if this was true. My bronco is an 85, so I have to I will switch the plugs. I remember some post on FTE about someone putting a bricknose radio in their truck, but now I can’t find it.

[Gary Lewis]

Chris - I have both an '85 EVTM and a '96 EVTM, and will look later today to see what connectors they show for the radios and let you know.

[85lebaront2]

You also have an 81 and 86 if I recall.

[85lebaront2]

FWIW, the 1980-86 radios are shaft mount and probably a one and one half DIN height. The 1992-96/7 radios are a side clip mount and are a one DIN height.

In order to use most aftermarket radios in a 1980-86 you need an adapter, for the 1992-96/7 the slide in mount most come with fits right in. Wiring, the 1980-86 models used pigtails on the radio with plugs that do not in any way match the newer system, for one thing, the 85 has a common ground speaker system, the 94 will have individual + and - leads. I have a set of the later radio plugs I cut form a harness for someone who them changed his mind if you need them.

[MotorsportXLT]

sweet thank you gary!

[MotorsportXLT]

I have the smaller radio adapter kit. Now I just have to figure out how to wire in the newer radio.

[Gary Lewis]

I actually have an 81, 84, 85, 86, 87, and 96 EVTM - although the 86 is in electronic format.  But, I figured the best bet was to look at the 85 and the 96.  So, I've now brought them in from the shop and will peruse them during the Cotton Bowl tonight.  

[PetesPonies]

And I have an '83 set of manuals if anyone needs anything.

[MotorsportXLT]

Thanks gary, if i could know the coloring for the wires on the 85 and 96 that would be perfect

[Gary Lewis]

Chris - The 1985 radios are the same as the 1986 radios, which are shown on pages 127 & 128 in the Electrical/EVTM/1986 EVTM/Radios.  In addition, on Page 129 you can see the page number and even which figure in which you can find an illustration showing each connector.

And the 1996 radios are shown below.

Oddly enough, both of these are from Bill's EVTM's.  The 1986 is his, and the '96 I took pics of is his.  And I took pics from his because my brand new 1996 EVTM is WRONG!  It is probably a Chinese clone and "hinges" on the top instead of the side, has the wrong stuff in the right place, and leaves a lot out.  It is going back.  

[85lebaront2]

Gary Lewis wrote

Chris - The 1985 radios are the same as the 1986 radios, which are shown on pages 127 & 128 in the Electrical/EVTM/1986 EVTM/Radios.  In addition, on Page 129 you can see the page number and even which figure in which you can find an illustration showing each connector.

And the 1996 radios are shown below.

Oddly enough, both of these are from Bill's EVTM's.  The 1986 is his, and the '96 I took pics of is his.  And I took pics from his because my brand new 1996 EVTM is WRONG!  It is probably a Chinese clone and "hinges" on the top instead of the side, has the wrong stuff in the right place, and leaves a lot out.  It is going back.  

Gary, check Black Hat Auction on eBay, store is lorieandjeff they are where I get a lot of my manuals, that is where the 1996 EVTM came from, the 1986 I bought new from Helm inc. when I bought Darth in 1994.

[Gary Lewis]

Bill - I'm going to wait to see what the seller, Hordes Of Hobbies, says to this email I just sent them, and copied Amazon:

I believe you are selling counterfeit manuals.  See my review here: https://www.amazon.com/review/R13R0MAKUJXZDW/ref=pe_1098610_137716200_cm_rv_eml_rv0_rv

This manual is not just a simple mistake.  It is wrong in almost every aspect, from size, to the way it opens, to the fact that every other page is upside down, to the fact that pages are missing.  And I'll bet you know that you are selling fake items.  So, I'm also betting you won't get back with me and explain why I'm wrong.  If so, when the time limit runs out on your response I will be contacting Amazon to see how to get you removed from their sellers list.

You can read the review at that link, and you can see the pictures of your EVTM vs theirs.  

[MotorsportXLT]

Sorry for the late response! Thanks a bunch Gary! Those wiring diagrams help a bunch!

[85lebaront2]

Gary, I suspect that when the printer took an original and copied it if they had (a) gotten all the pages and (b) bound it like the original it would be ok. The binding change is why the pages are flipped, if you were to make copies of the pages in mine, then stick them in a normal loose leaf binder every other page would be upside down. Now you know why I buy from my eBay source, that is where the 1996 EVTM came from along with a ton of other manuals including the full set for the 2011 Flex.

[Gary Lewis]

Good point!  That’s exactly what happened - plus they dropped at least two pages. I’ll take your suggestion on buying. 

On Monday, January 8, 2018, 85lebaront2 [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Gary, I suspect that when the printer took an original and copied it if they had (a) gotten all the pages and (b) bound it like the original it would be ok. The binding change is why the pages are flipped, if you were to make copies of the pages in mine, then stick them in a normal loose leaf binder every other page would be upside down. Now you know why I buy from my eBay source, that is where the 1996 EVTM came from along with a ton of other manuals including the full set for the 2011 Flex.

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