No Parking Lights in Rear and no Blinkers?

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kristopherdb
Ill give that a look this week, tonight after work is supposed to be hot so I will be hiding from the sun!
1985 4x4 F150 Flareside 6L Manual 4 with Granny gear
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mp470
Meanwhile we're getting ready for winter over here...
1985 F-150 XLT Lariat, 5.0 EFI, RWD, 8.8 Axle
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Gary Lewis
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It'll be 93 degrees here on Saturday for the show. What's winter?  😳
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kristopherdb
ok I got a tester finally and took care of the trailer mess in the back still no lights and I am not getting any power to the blower and or turn signal fuses. Could this be because my wiper switch is disconnected? I followed the wiring diagram as suggested and I have never read one before so bare with me, I have no parking lights, no license plate lights, no backup lights, no turn signals, and no power to those two fuses. If I touch the center pin on the parking bulb I get a ground tone. That tells me I am getting ground to the power somehow right?
1985 4x4 F150 Flareside 6L Manual 4 with Granny gear
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Gary Lewis
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Kristopher - We are going to have to divide and conquer these problems.  Let's do the power to the fuses first - you don't have power to Fuse 5, which is the Turn/Stop/Hazard one, nor Fuse 9, which is the A/C-Heat fuse.  Right?

From the drawing on Page 13 of the 1981 EVTM those two fuses, and only those fuses, are fed by the gray/yellow (GY/Y) wire from the ignition switch, with nothing in between.  So, you need to confirm if that wire has power on it when the key is in Run.  If not, and assuming the big Yellow wires feeding the switch are hot at all times, then your ignition switch has a problem.

Here's the schematic from Page 13 with some markups:


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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kristopherdb
now I am second guessing myself, I had reached under the column to turn the key on and it does have a habit of sticking in start instead of run. I usually notice because my gas says Empty, bump the key back and all is well. I should probably make sure I was not in start before I go any further.

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Kristopher - We are going to have to divide and conquer these problems.  Let's do the power to the fuses first - you don't have power to Fuse 5, which is the Turn/Stop/Hazard one, nor Fuse 9, which is the A/C-Heat fuse.  Right?

From the drawing on Page 13 of the 1981 EVTM those two fuses, and only those fuses, are fed by the gray/yellow (GY/Y) wire from the ignition switch, with nothing in between.  So, you need to confirm if that wire has power on it when the key is in Run.  If not, and assuming the big Yellow wires feeding the switch are hot at all times, then your ignition switch has a problem.

Here's the schematic from Page 13 with some markups:


Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads, Weiand intake, Street Demon 750/ZF5/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/T19/3.55's



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Gary Lewis
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Good plan, Stan.

We can pick up from there once you report back.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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PetesPonies
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And do you reliaze how these Ford switches are designed? The actual switch is not where the key is inserted.
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Gary Lewis
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As explained here: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/ignition-switch.html. A full-service website. 😉
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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PetesPonies
What happens many times with these switches, is the two halves of the diecast  metal, start to separate . . . . . causing all kinds of interesting possibilities . . one bad one being fire  :(
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Mustang RUSToration & Performance

1982 F100 Flareside
1983 Bronco

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kristopherdb
Ok I put in a new wiper switch and bam 99% of my lights are back to normal. I had pulled two from the junkyard today thank god. The first had the same pins and a ground wire but didn’t work. It seemed like it had delay built in maybe, I was hopeful at least. The other switch got me back in business. Image

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What happens many times with these switches, is the two halves of the diecast  metal, start to separate . . . . . causing all kinds of interesting possibilities . . one bad one being fire  :(
Pete's Ponies
Mustang RUSToration & Performance

1982 F100 Flareside
1983 Bronco




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Gary Lewis
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Glad you got it working!  But you said 99%. Dare I ask what isn't working?
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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kristopherdb
License plate light and one reverse light. 


From: Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <ml+[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 5:25:36 AM
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Subject: Re: No Parking Lights in Rear and no Blinkers?
 
Glad you got it working!  But you said 99%. Dare I ask what isn't working?
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads, Weiand intake, Street Demon 750/ZF5/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/T19/3.55's



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kristopherdb
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I bought this to help me Image


From: Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <ml+[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 5:25:36 AM
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Glad you got it working!  But you said 99%. Dare I ask what isn't working?
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads, Weiand intake, Street Demon 750/ZF5/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/T19/3.55's



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Gary Lewis
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That EVTM will be a big help. You can see the same thing on here, but there's nothing like having something to carry with you when working on the truck. 👍

As for the last two lights, I'm guessing it is the bulbs. Obviously you have power back there or the other backup light and license tag light wouldn't work. So it could be wiring, bulb, or ground. Try the bulbs first.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Papelione
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Interesting thread

Out of curiosity, why Did a New wiper switch help on Parking lights?

Best regards

Christian
1984, F250, 2wd, 460, manual.
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