New Power Steering Hose - It swivels?

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New Power Steering Hose - It swivels?

Bronco638
Hey Everyone,
I changed the hoses on my power steering pump yesterday. After installing the pressure hose, I put the assembly in the engine bracket (so that I could tighten all the line fittings and not spill any more ps fluid).

I noticed that the connection the pressure hose makes, at the pump body (see yellow arrow), swivels when I pivot the pump on the axis of the retaining bolt (that goes into the head). Is that correct? The 17mm fitting is tight.



The new and old hoses looked the same and I did use the new o-ring that came with the hose. There was also a small yellow plastic cap that was in the bag, along with the o-ring. Not sure what that is.

I double checked the hose I purchased (O'Reilly's Precision 13401261) and the application appears to be correct. The ps pump came from the parts truck (1981 F-100 w/4.9) but the hose seems to be the same for all early Bull Nose trucks, regardless of engine.

Any thoughts?

TIA
Dave A
'80 F-150
'11 Ranger
'17 Expedition
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Ifitaintbroke
It's fine. My factory hose did that, and the Precision replacement. Neither leak. It's weird, and I'm not sure how a fitting can move like that and not leak, but they do.
Bradley
86 f250 supercab longbed, 4x4, 460 bored to 472 cubes, ported heads, ARP rod bolts, EFI pistons, 5.08/5.41 lift 114° lobe separation flat tappet cam, notched lifters, Smith Brothers pushrods, stock rockers, Eddy Performer intake, Holley 1850 or 3310 depending on mood, custom curved points dizzy, MSD analog 6al triggered by Pertronix module, zf5 swap, 3g alternator, custom instrument cluster, dual tanks with 38 Gal rear for 57 Gal of fuel capacity, far too much more to mention.

98 Ranger standard cab, rwd, 5-speed, 2.5L, glass pack muffler, dual plugs wired to fire at the same time, coming up on 300,000 miles before too long.

Averaging 26-27 mpg.

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Bronco638
Ifitaintbroke wrote
It's fine. My factory hose did that, and the Precision replacement. Neither
leak. It's weird, and I'm not sure how a fitting can move like that and not
leak, but they do.
That's a relief, thank you!
Dave A
'80 F-150
'11 Ranger
'17 Expedition
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85lebaront2
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It has an O-ring where the fitting is put together. This allows it to move without leaking.
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Bronco638
I was hoping that's what the o-ring was for. I was sure to install the new o-ring that came with the new hose (and even lubed it with old ps fluid).
Dave A
'80 F-150
'11 Ranger
'17 Expedition
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C.Jett
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Dave, it’s another Ford oddity, you did it correct, but a warning, Do Not move steering unless engine is running, it will burp fluid every where. Ask me how I know. Another Ford oddity. CJ
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Gary Lewis
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I think you meant DAHIK 😎
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Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
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C.Jett
Gary, but that’s an extra word I didn’t have to type. CJ
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Gary Lewis
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Depends on how you count.

By the way, the C-II pump used in the pickups is the one that sprays if you turn the wheel with the engine off. The Saginaw pump used in the vans doesn’t. Which is one of the reasons I have one on Big Blue.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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viven44
I think the steering gear sprays fluid. I had a steering gear box out a couple days ago and when I wiggled the pitman arm around it sprayed fluid out...

Probably naive of me... but is it just that the Saginaw pump has a better reservoid lid to prevent fluid spray from escaping ?
Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6
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ArdWrknTrk
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The Saginaw is just different internally.
You can turn the wheel with the lid OFF and it still won't spew everywhere.

It was patented and manufactured by the steering gear division of General Motors.
You know Ford had a hard time swallowing that, so The Motor Company designed their own pumps (C1, C2 & C3) but they tended to be noisy and so weren't used on Lincoln's and upmarket Mercury's.

I'm not sure why Saginaw pumps were chosen for the Econolines, as NVC doesn't seem to be a big deal for vans.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Bronco638
C.Jett wrote
Dave, it’s another Ford oddity, you did it correct, but a warning, Do Not
move steering unless engine is running, it will burp fluid every where. Ask
me how I know. Another Ford oddity. CJ
I recalled that from the early Mustangs but also got a messy reminder when I brought the truck home in late April. With the truck still on the tow dolly, I had to unlock the steering column so the wheels would turn enough to back the truck into the driveway. Fortunately most of the mess was in the street....
Dave A
'80 F-150
'11 Ranger
'17 Expedition