My timing chain adventure begins..

[Gary Lewis]

Why would you leave the donuts and not eat them?  

[reamer]

Don't like the taste of rubber and asphalt!

[ArdWrknTrk]

Gary Lewis wrote

What were they thinking (other than "this plate is rotted through, and I'm not waiting til tomorrow to put it back together")?
There's just no way a centrifugal pump can work efficiently with THAT much side clearance, and 0.080" of RTV isn't winning any prize either.  

[Gary Lewis]

Thinking?  I don't believe they were.  At least not well.

As you'll see, Big Blue is sporting an Edelbrock water pump, and I'm hoping theirs a plate behind it.  However, Florida Man put it on, so.....

[reamer]

Welllll, its done! now I'm not putting fluids in it till tomorrow, Let it set up over night.

Damn pesky cork oil pan gaskets starting slipping out, noting I can do but squirt more RTV in there.
We'll see what happens tomorrow!

[Gary Lewis]

RTV on cork gaskets is quite slippery.  My father would have said "Like snot on a glass doorknob."  So you are right to let it set up.  

Anyway, congrat's!  I'll bet you are gonna be happy!

[Steve83]

E6000 will keep a cork gasket in-place, if you put the pan/gasket on a flat table for the ~5 min it takes the E6000 to set up.

But I'd never use cork - modern silicone/nitrile/rubber reusable gaskets are too common & affordable.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Goose poop on the morning's dew covered grass?    

I just trim those corners to size and glue them on.


Drive it like you stole it, Ron!  
Vid's or it never happened...

[reamer]

Now I see why Steve at my local Ford dealership, (which advertises and does repair on any year Ford) said "do you really want me to charge you about 1500 for a timing chain?, It all gonna be labor..."


I've known him for years and he has a good "read-out" of what I can do...and What he would have to do on the family vehicles.


So with that in mind I made a "Ronco" invoice of this adventure, granted Steve at Bowens Ford could probably do this a bit faster, but here's my "invoice to me"

[Gary Lewis]

Yup.  Lots and lots of TIME!  By your numbers, over 2/3's of the cost is labor.  In fact, at 71% it is almost 3/4's.  And that's at your cheap rate of $90/hour.  

[reamer]

And I  didn't add the charges for:
"clean air act"
"disposal fee"
"consumables"

I wonder if I'll pay

[ArdWrknTrk]

You forgot the waste disposal surcharges..  

Keep it up!
If you continue to work on your own vehicles you'll be able to pay for your garage in no time.  

[ArdWrknTrk]

Dang!
You edited it in while I was posting.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Are you going to get your daughter to shoot video of donuts in your driveway????

Pic's or it didn't happen....  

[reamer]

It's Alive!
Now the million dollar question, Do I time it at Recommended 10 degrees (15 inches vac) or 20 degrees, (18 inches?)

[1986F150Six]

Set it @ 12 degrees BTDC and drive. Listen for pinging under moderate load. If no pinging, bump to 13 degrees. If pinging is detected, retard slightly.

[Gary Lewis]

Yippee!!!!!  

As for timing, I agree with David.

[Rembrant]

1986F150Six wrote

Set it @ 12 degrees BTDC and drive.

I concur!

[ArdWrknTrk]

Did you install the Crane adjustable vacuum advance unit?

Even if you didn't, the instructions for the 60's-'70's Ford/Mercury part are available on the Jeg's website.

They spell out how to optimize your advance curve.
*Yes,12° is a good start.  

[reamer]

Ohhhhh-Kayyyy…. That was a crap-load of work and it truly needed it with that much slop on the original chain,.....Buuuut there is no difference in driving performance

I do have vacuum to the dizzy advance module, but will check if it's working with a vac pump, Also, while running I covered the carb opening and it will stall, (no air getting in) then I also emptied a can of brake clean around the carb base and intake gaskets, with no revving of the idle.....
Also applied E-brake and let off the clutch in 1st gear and she stalled as required......