Ok I get what you mean now. A completely dry system. But like you said, if you actually drive your truck, you don't have to worry about things like that.
Bradley
86 f250 supercab longbed, 4x4, 460 bored to 472 cubes, ported heads, ARP rod bolts, EFI pistons, 5.08/5.41 lift 114Β° lobe separation flat tappet cam, notched lifters, Smith Brothers pushrods, stock rockers, Eddy Performer intake, Holley 1850 or 3310 depending on mood, custom curved points dizzy, MSD analog 6al triggered by Pertronix module, zf5 swap, 3g alternator, custom instrument cluster, dual tanks with 38 Gal rear for 57 Gal of fuel capacity, far too much more to mention. 98 Ranger standard cab, rwd, 5-speed, 2.5L, glass pack muffler, dual plugs wired to fire at the same time, coming up on 300,000 miles before too long. Averaging 26-27 mpg. South Georgia. |
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Winter gas in summer will leave your bowls dry in three days...
You need to drive it, not stroke yourself over it.
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
many have gotten spoiled by efi and most below a certain age don't even have the concept of carburetors. but understand this basic. a carburetor is a vent! it cannot not be a vent. a well-ventilated vent. with some vents more restricted and some less. whereas fuel injection is a closed system, at the engine anyway. there is still a safety vent at the tank. I leave my 250 at the shop and its 351m with 2bbl. it takes a few turns to start the engine if it has been sitting a couple weeks. and a couple restarts. we have a part timer who keeps asking what's wrong with it. he is baffled when I say not a damn thing.
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Well, technically (simplified) a carburetor is a venturi, where increased velocity results in lower pressure, which sucks fuel out of the bowl.
Hell, WAY back in the day it was nothing but a tray of fuel, heated on the bottom and the intake port sucked the fumes off the top.
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
I was going to say just that.. '
I have been obsessed with the Venturi effect ever since I learned about it. I know recently Dyson has made a big deal about it, but it has been around waay longer. Until a few years ago I did not know anything about carburetors. When I found out the working principle of carburetor was based on "Venturi effect" there has been no turning back.
Vivek
- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6 - 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6 |
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Hence 2-V or 4-V,.. even the venerable 1-V Carter YF (Aluminium)
Wait until you catch up with Bernoulli's principal! π
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
both correct and incorrect
it is a venturi when running. not running it is only a vent. |
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Enlighten me, Jim...
Bradley
86 f250 supercab longbed, 4x4, 460 bored to 472 cubes, ported heads, ARP rod bolts, EFI pistons, 5.08/5.41 lift 114Β° lobe separation flat tappet cam, notched lifters, Smith Brothers pushrods, stock rockers, Eddy Performer intake, Holley 1850 or 3310 depending on mood, custom curved points dizzy, MSD analog 6al triggered by Pertronix module, zf5 swap, 3g alternator, custom instrument cluster, dual tanks with 38 Gal rear for 57 Gal of fuel capacity, far too much more to mention. 98 Ranger standard cab, rwd, 5-speed, 2.5L, glass pack muffler, dual plugs wired to fire at the same time, coming up on 300,000 miles before too long. Averaging 26-27 mpg. South Georgia. |
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Essentially Bernoulli's principal provides a basis for venturi effect.
As height decreases, velocity increases and pressure drops, following the limits of thermodynamics..(restrict a pipe and velocity at that point speeds up) It interesting to play with and experiment.
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
Same as acoustics. Pitch would also increase.
Bradley
86 f250 supercab longbed, 4x4, 460 bored to 472 cubes, ported heads, ARP rod bolts, EFI pistons, 5.08/5.41 lift 114Β° lobe separation flat tappet cam, notched lifters, Smith Brothers pushrods, stock rockers, Eddy Performer intake, Holley 1850 or 3310 depending on mood, custom curved points dizzy, MSD analog 6al triggered by Pertronix module, zf5 swap, 3g alternator, custom instrument cluster, dual tanks with 38 Gal rear for 57 Gal of fuel capacity, far too much more to mention. 98 Ranger standard cab, rwd, 5-speed, 2.5L, glass pack muffler, dual plugs wired to fire at the same time, coming up on 300,000 miles before too long. Averaging 26-27 mpg. South Georgia. |
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Frequency was not questioned.
Try explaining RMS or inverse square law to someone Their eyes glaze over and they get nothing
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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Try explaining how a group of 16-18 year olds built a cyclotron for a senior group physics entry in a district science fair and won several awards for same, Senior Group Physics, NASA Aerospace Physics, I believe there was one other one.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile
"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413 |
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I guess until he's done that we are not going to talk about his fuel pump issues Loving it!
Vivek
- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6 - 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6 |
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Without more input from Airtech, what are we to do?
The fact that you aren't self subscribed to threads you post, trips new people up too. They don't have any idea there are responses. I can't wait for Nabble to die in a fire! π₯
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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Helmholtz resonance, lengths, volumes, wall thickness, orifice size(s). π€
Another easy one to experiment with and have fun. Esoteric and arcane?? Everybody needs a good pipe organ maker after the winter's tin pest comes through! π
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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Without more input from Airtech, what are we to do?
The fact that you aren't self subscribed to threads you post, trips new people up too. They don't have any idea there are responses. I can't wait for Nabble to die in a fire! π₯
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
I am not Airtech, but if I was Airtech, I would maybe come back and tell us if our thoughts are helping him or what is going on. I am very anxious to know more
Vivek
- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6 - 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6 |
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Perhaps he can ...... Welcome to the Bullnose Forum! I've made you a member of the forum even though the info you got probably said we'll do that after you post. That's because our joining process isn't working quite right - yet. π₯΄πππ₯Ίπ π€£π€£π€£π€£ Let us know if the joining process worked correctly you've already been taken there, so please let us know if you have. And let us know overall how the joining process worked for you.
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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Ah good ole tin pest. Haven't heard of that in a while.
Bradley
86 f250 supercab longbed, 4x4, 460 bored to 472 cubes, ported heads, ARP rod bolts, EFI pistons, 5.08/5.41 lift 114Β° lobe separation flat tappet cam, notched lifters, Smith Brothers pushrods, stock rockers, Eddy Performer intake, Holley 1850 or 3310 depending on mood, custom curved points dizzy, MSD analog 6al triggered by Pertronix module, zf5 swap, 3g alternator, custom instrument cluster, dual tanks with 38 Gal rear for 57 Gal of fuel capacity, far too much more to mention. 98 Ranger standard cab, rwd, 5-speed, 2.5L, glass pack muffler, dual plugs wired to fire at the same time, coming up on 300,000 miles before too long. Averaging 26-27 mpg. South Georgia. |
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