Do I need this chingadera

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Do I need this chingadera

26ftcobraBBF

Hi all, me again...
I took this here little chingadera out because I broke it trying to clean it, the thing don't seem to seat like it should.. Y'all probably already know this is but it was inline between the PCV valve, and the carb...or maybe it was the spacer... Anywho.. I've stripped all emissions, not sure if it was part of that system or what. Every part store I've brought it into, nobody knows what it is.
Soooo, what is it, what does it do, and do I need it๐Ÿ˜
Mike
'85 Ford Cobra Econoline E350 7.5L carbureted thing of beauty
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ArdWrknTrk
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It's a thermal compensator.
Basically an engineered in vacuum leak to lean the engine and step up the idle speed in lumbering beasts when underhood temperatures rise too high.

I wouldn't say you need it, but it was but there by the upfitter for that reason
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Gary Lewis
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Jim - Did the same engine also get the thermally-controlled vacuum switch/valve that put manifold vacuum to the vacuum advance?  Or did some use that thingamajig to give more air and others use the switch to give more vacuum?

If not, then the vacuum switch could be used to speed up the idle - if that function is needed.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ArdWrknTrk
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Gary, I think all carburted 460s had the valve on the water neck my
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Gary Lewis
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So some needed both?  Man, that 460 is a hot beast, but wow!

I'm thinking that the one on the water neck may be enough in this case.  So my answer to the original question is "Hopefully you don't need it."  I'd either replace the PVC hose with a full-length one or put a double-barb in that doohickey's place and try w/o it.  If it gets hot and needs the extra idle speed then it can be addressed later.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ArdWrknTrk
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Ford sells a cutaway E-350 chassis.
The coachbuilder/upfitter does *whatever.

That thing is not from Ford, it's from Cobra..
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Gary Lewis
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Yes, and apparently Cobra thought it was needed - at least in some cases.  But I'm hoping that in this case it won't be needed.  Or that another workaround can be found if that device is NLA.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ArdWrknTrk
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I think Bill listed some manufacturers when he first identified it as a hot Idle compensator.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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85lebaront2
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It won't be pretty, but, the actual hot idle compensator appears to screw into a brass tee, two hose fittings and one female NPT on the side. A brass tee with three female NPT ports, two hose to the NPT thread in male and the valve in the third port.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413