Distributor recommendations

[ArdWrknTrk]

Joe has a 351 HO so he can even use '87 250/350 parts.

It all depends on why the old dizzy is broken, and how much of the existing Flareside wiring is still intact. 👍

[viven44]

Even if the truck is stripped out completely, you can build a DS-II harness from scratch rather easily with about 8 wires, some connectors... DS-II modules and distributors are still readily available, although they are "cheap" reproductions of the original.

Thread below is a good read

https://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/C-322-Duraspark-II-distributor-connector-tp146596.html

[ArdWrknTrk]

But THIS truck isn't butchered.
I'm still not sure what is wrong with the distributor it has...


The firewood truck is a different case entirely, and being a "One Year Wonder" like mine, any kind of harness is going to be problematic.

I'd offered Mike Kleeman a bunch of good advice when he mashed up the '87 460 dump truck with the diesel F-450 (Super duty) a dilapidated wrecker and another Huck.

But the round bulkhead connector AND any DS-II harness is a very unique animal.
Trying to build an entire under hood harness -starting from nothing- is not for the faint hearted.
There's no charge & power distribution. No lighting harness, no sensors or senders, no starter wiring.

.....Nothing!

And in that case you'd have to be not only a lunatic, but a masochist, to go that route for a flatbed trail beater.

[viven44]

I'm not saying the entire under hood harness is to be built from scratch, just the DS-II constituents... the assumption is that the rest of the factory harness is still not butchered. If all is butchered, then start from scratch with a painless harness. All these are hypotheticals..

Good to know the truck we are talking about here doesn't need anything drastic...

[85lebaront2]

Come on now Jim, are you telling it's not possible to completely rewire my F350 and Lebaron convertible? I must have stumbled onto some of that "dynomite sheet" Chech and Chong talked about.

[ArdWrknTrk]

No.

I'm saying that for someone else who likely has no wire or factory connectors (and is just looking to get a functional ignition system into an abused woods vehicle) that may well never be registered for the road again, it is a fool's errand to even try to recreate a one year only harness.
When, for the price of a decent set of spark plug wires you can get: a distributor, coil, rotor, cap AND wires, as well as a socketed relay w/ pigtail.

With this he could have that truck running in an hour.

[Starliner]

The ICM is missing
The prior idiots destroyed the wiring, a square coil was attached to nothing and had red wires twisted to it with no connectors.
Add to that, they used a wizzer wheel on the carb, destroying it,
They made a gasket for egr riser to intake from DIY roll of cork.
Geniuses.
I did find a harness today, as well as a 100% perfect dash pad.

I really needed to start from scratch.

[Starliner]

[85lebaront2]

There is a spacer that the EGR valve was attached to that is missing.

[ArdWrknTrk]

You don't need any icm if you no longer have the feedback carb.

Definitely get a spacer (I used Trans-dapt on my 460)
If you have NPT taps put a plug in the EGR port of the manifold

... and, of course you need 2' of 3/8 fuel line!

[mat in tn]

that carb spacer gasket is one of the funniest things I've seen lately. did you buy this truck from Salvador Dali?

[Starliner]

Yes. I have the spacer, all cleaned up. I am just making an EGR delete plate for it and then the new carb is going on.

If I just need to make 8 or so wires, that might be the good way to go.

I am waiting for that huge chiltons truck manual. Bought it from ebay. It should have the codes for the wires. I can do wires. It sounds like you guys are saying to not do anything drastic if I don't have to.

It's not in my nature, but you guys know your stuff, no question.

[Starliner]

Mat,
That was hilarious.

[Starliner]

[ArdWrknTrk]

What are you going to do for a carb if the PO destroyed it?

I would recommend a Holley 0-80457-S as a nearly drop on replacement.
Consider swapping the old Motorcraft ~7V choke element over, because this wasn't an HO to begin with and doesn't have a choke relay...

[Starliner]

Jim, I am prepared to get scolded,

[ArdWrknTrk]

I mentioned in another thread that I had that carb for years until I gave it to Nick & George for their scarlet Ranchero, and Matt chimed in that it was a good choice, that he used one too.

It's hard to see all the details from my phone.
Be certain that it's the one with a Ford sized ball stud and C6 kickdown, because I think there are some variations that come with GM or Chrysler/Dodge linkages.

I found mine to be a little rich out of the box, but that's understandable, they would rather be safe than sorry.

[85lebaront2]

Looks like a good choice. Gary is the one who would scold you, he hates Holley carburetors.

[thelastkeg]

What's Gary's preference on carbs?  I have a manual choke Edelbrock 1405 (I think it's a 1405- it's been about 12 years since I put it on) on my 85 F250.  I've rebuilt it a couple of times over the years, and have played with the jets and everything just for fun.  It's been a good carb, no complaints at all.

I've never had anything with a Holley on it yet, I'm not opposed to it though and would like to try one out one day.  I've had quite a lot of Edelbrocks and one Weber 32/36 that were all good.  But the two Amazon one bbl carbs were both terrible.  Also had a Motorcraft 2150 on a Jeep CJ5 that I enjoyed.  

[ArdWrknTrk]

Gary prefers the AVS, but he can't seem to keep a bowl gasket on a Holley.

I don't think they had the blue Teflon ones back in the 60's