Discussions From Testing InVision Platform

[BigBrother-84]

OK, here's how it works:

1- Depending of the width of your browser window, you will see a "drop menu" icon, or some text (up right corner).  Select «Sign Up»:


2- Then, complete the required information fields:

Note that, when I clicked on "Terms of Use" link,  I got this empty box.
I suppose it is the right place to put some members rules?

3- So, I clicked «I agree» checkbox, and I got a message asking to look at my emails in order to validate my new account.

4- Went verify my emails, and found thais one:

5- Clicked «Validate my Email address», and the final step was to validate my account in the browser window that automatically appeared.  Done, my account is setup.

[BigBrother-84]

Continuing the "new member process".

I posted my first thread without any obligation to read and agree to Forum rules.
And I did not have to present myself neither:

Immediately after posting, I received a message:


So, would be nice to find a way that any new member must COMFIRM he/she read the rules, and goes automatically through a "present yourself" process before being able to post.

[Gary Lewis]

Ok, thanks.  Not what I'd hoped for but it doesn't surprise me.  This place is complicated!  Lots and lots of capabilities.

[Gary Lewis]

I think I found where the guidelines need to go in the registration process and put them there.  And in order to see if I did it right I set it up to require all of us to accept the guidelines the next time we log in.  I hit refresh and go the popup below.

And this is in Settings/Terms & Privacy Policy.

[BigBrother-84]

It works Gary.


I tried my two IDs and I had to agree before going further.

[BigBrother-84]

The only weak side is that we do not HAVE to read at these rules...  Just checking the "I agree to the Terms of use" box is enough.

Same as any other software contract that everybody check without reading.

I tested it with a brand new user (Jeff-Tester-2), I didn't read the rules and just checked the box...

[Gary Lewis]

So it doesn't pop the guidelines up when you register?  You can just tick the box?  Bummer!

When I turned on the force-everyone-to-accept-the-guidelines button it popped them up and I had to accept them before I could do anything else.

I'll check to see if I'm missing something that would force that to happen to a newbie.

[Gary Lewis]

Was looking for how to force people to see the guidelines during the registration process and saw the notice below.  Doesn't look like we can force the new members into the New Member group.  And if that is true we may not be able to restrict their first post(s) to the New Members Start Here folder.  

[Gary Lewis]

I've posted on the Invision help forum to see if anyone can tell me how to get the guidelines to pop up when a newbie joins.  Or how to put a newbie into the New Members group instead of the Members group.  That was earlier today and no joy yet.  But maybe.  

Also, I'm going to clean up the descriptions of our sub-forums in Nabble so when the conversion is done there won't be as much cleanup to do.  But I think I'll start by getting it the way I think we want it to look on Invision and then put that in Nabble.  Does that make sense?

[BigBrother-84]

Sorry Gary, was online early this morning but on the road after.  So I'm reading at your notes right now.

Gary Lewis wrote

Also, I'm going to clean up the descriptions of our sub-forums in Nabble so when the conversion is done there won't be as much cleanup to do.

Good idea.  We'll have enough job in order to fine tune the way InVision works, so all tasks that can be done upstream in Nabble will free up time for tweaking InVision to match our needs.

Gary Lewis wrote

But I think I'll start by getting it the way I think we want it to look on Invision and then put that in Nabble.  Does that make sense?

Yep, but how sure can we be certain that the conversion process itself will not result with nasty surprises.
For example, the various InVision fonts for same kind of descriptions... could it somehow come from Nabble..?

[Gary Lewis]

We can't be sure, but to this point Invision has done a good job picking up the font from Nabble.  So I think they will next round.

But I think I've found another problem.  The Picture Gallery doesn't appear to have come through.  I've done a bunch of searching and can't find it in the Invision conversion.

Also, can some of y'all take a look to see that I've hidden the Admin Only and Administrative Area sub-forums properly?  Members shouldn't be able to see them, only admins and moderators.  Here's what I see but you shouldn't see the two circled in red.

[BigBrother-84]

Gary Lewis wrote

But I think I've found another problem.  The Picture Gallery doesn't appear to have come through.  I've done a bunch of searching and can't find it in the Invision conversion.

Ok, I know this situation isn't funny... but I'll mimic a good friend: bummer!
Hopping InVision techs will explain that missing.

Gary Lewis wrote

Also, can some of y'all take a look to see that I've hidden the Admin Only and Administrative Area sub-forums properly?  Members shouldn't be able to see them, only admins and moderators.  Here's what I see but you shouldn't see the two circled in red.

I confirm Captain, Regular Joes do not see them:

[Gary Lewis]

Perfect!  Thanks!

[BigBrother-84]

Gary, I noticed that this space is larger for «New Members Start Here» than other topics.

Something that comes from Nabble and needs to be fixed now?

[Gary Lewis]

Jeff - I'm pretty sure it is because we have this as the description for NMSH on Nabble. And that is done with a lot of fancy formatting.  Somehow that fancy formatting gets brought over to Invision and I can't get rid of it.

I think we want to keep the verbiage until we move to Invision, but maybe I should take out the formatting and make it simple?

[BigBrother-84]

Gary, IMHO, we should have a minimum verbiage there, at least the guidelines.

Well, until we find a way where each new member has no choice to read at them (and ideally agree) before being able to post.

But others can have different opinion...

[BigBrother-84]

ABOUT HYPERLINKS

Gary, I found that, if I click on a hyperlink (testing InVision) which refers to another topic, this target topic opens in Nabble.

I am wondering if they will open in InVision after the move.


EDIT:
For example, this thread:

[Gary Lewis]

Yes, all of the links within the forum currently go back to Nabble.  For instance my links in my signature.  But Stuart, the guy at Invision that is doing the conversion, assures me they'll point at Invision and the right threads and topics after the conversion.

[Gary Lewis]

BigBrother-84 wrote

Gary, IMHO, we should have a minimum verbiage there, at least the guidelines.

Well, until we find a way where each new member has no choice to read at them (and ideally agree) before being able to post.

But others can have different opinion...

Jeff - I kept this as a separate response as I wanted to discuss it by itself.  I've learned more about what we can and cannot do on the registration process, so I'm going to post a question in the main section to get everyone's opinion on it.  I'll tag you on it when I do, later this afternoon.

[BigBrother-84]

Gary Lewis wrote

Yes, all of the links within the forum currently go back to Nabble.  For instance my links in my signature.  But Stuart, the guy at Invision that is doing the conversion, assures me they'll point at Invision and the right threads and topics after the conversion.