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ArdWrknTrk
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There's good reason manufacturers went to the trouble and expense of engineering and equipping vehicles with these systems.

It's the only way they could get a carbureted engine to deliver consistent mixtures.

And even if you don't have or want to meet federal emissions standards, having a stable A:F is key to smooth operation.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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C.Jett
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Bill, I have 2- 1/4” gaskets under carb. Gas runs out until you shut engine off. I believe that’s beyond boiling over. I’m having another pair of eyes look at carb. The exhaust manifold and heat riser valve is new. I will have to remove heat shield to check it. On my checklist. The sensor and vacuum motor needs to be checked also. Thanks for your help Bill. CJ
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C.Jett
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You’re preaching to the choir Jim, I believe the same. I’m just trying to work with what I have. CJ
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Re: Carb Flooding

ArdWrknTrk
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Not any criticism intended.  

To think how many air cleaners were tossed in the trash for a 'performance' tin lid with 'improved airflow' back then.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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C.Jett
Didn’t take it that way Jim. I have the original air cleaner, just need to make sure all parts work and a source if they don’t. I welcome your comments. Thanks CJ
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ArdWrknTrk
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It's always a concern. Especially over the Internet when there is no inflection or nuance.

As someone who only thinks in facts and has no filter I can easily offend people without even trying (the joys of being an aspie)

The vacuum motor for the flap and thermal switch (CWM) are much easier to find by their Motorcraft numbers than by the Ford P/N.

Let's see if we can get your proper parts diagram and listing from the MPC. CJ.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Gary Lewis
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I think what you are looking for is on the page at Documentation/Fuel & Air Systems/Air Cleaners.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ArdWrknTrk
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Those numbers with an asterisk below the Ford p\n are the Motorcraft #
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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C.Jett
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No offense taken Jim. What use to be an Honest answer is now called “ In your face”. SAD… My wife claims I have no filter, so that makes us somewhat alike. Thanks again for your help. CJ
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85lebaront2
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Aren't you glad I didn't pitch Darth's when I switched to EFI?
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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ArdWrknTrk
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Very grateful!
 I've mentioned it a bunch of times.

The kid in Florida that wanted my old one for his 351 and "didn't need or want" the drivers side flapper never ever reimbursed the shipping.

I guess that was asking too much?
But I told him.
I even took it to the Post Office and had them weigh it first.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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85lebaront2
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Damn, maybe he wasn't taught to be honest.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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C.Jett
Bill, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink. CJ
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85lebaront2
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Yes, and if he is a horse's posterior it doesn't help either.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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C.Jett
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Gary, Jim, when I use these numbers to find parts, it says “Does not fit your vehicle” in the adds. I’m lost when it comes to computers. Sorry. CJ
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Re: Carb Flooding

ArdWrknTrk
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Does it pull the part up?

Can you show us the screen you're seeing where their parts finder is telling you it's wrong?
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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C.Jett
Jim, I put the numbers in Google and various venders that have those numbers listed. I then list truck data and it comes up “Does not fit your truck”. CJ
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Re: Carb Flooding

ArdWrknTrk
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Here's a picture of the air cleaner



Here's a screenshot of the applications (upper right: 6 cylinder F150,  2wd, Auto except Calif = 184 & 185)



And here's a screenshot of 184 & 185



So what part numbers do you need?
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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C.Jett
Jim, didn’t mean to keep you up,2:01 am, grateful for your help. The numbers are 9e607,9d612 and 9e897a. I think I need, for my EGR system, a 2port pvs #cx1368, a check valve #?, and maybe a filter? Thanks a million! CJ
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Re: Carb Flooding

ArdWrknTrk
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I work all night.
I try to help people if I'm slow and not out on a call.
Believe me looking up parts and diagrams is a respite from tedious hours of sitting in a tow truck.

Do you know if you have the standard or heavy duty air filter housing?

I'm trying to get my truck back together today as it's the only dry weather I've seen all week and it's supposed to start raining @ 1am through to Monday, so I might not get right back to you, but I am thinking on it.....
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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