Bricknose vs. Bullnose floor pan?

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Bricknose vs. Bullnose floor pan?

RenoHuskerDu
Howdy, we have some cracks starting in the floor plan of our bullnose at the (poorly - fab'd) seat mounts. We've got a Bricknose parts truck sitting out there where we could cut out sections of its floor plan and use it to reinforce the floor of the bullnose. Does anybody know if the floor changed between bullnose and bricknose?
Reno in Central Texas, 86 F250 XLT Lariat eclb 2wd 6.9, plus 2 Bricknoses, 1 Aeronose that's getting a Bullnose front clip, and parts trucks. Busy lads, father and sons wrenchers.
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Gary Lewis
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The only change I’m aware of is in the 1990ish timeframe the transmission hump was extended back farther, apparently to accommodate the long E4OD. But otherwise I think they stayed the same.

Your cracking is exactly why I don’t recommend using any mounting points other than the factory ones for seats.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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Gary, FWIW, Darth's floor pan is in 3 sections, front, center and rear, front and rear are the same as a standard cab, the center is the 35" extension for the crew cab and the seat mounts on it are the same as the front mounts.




From these you can see (a) the height of the transmission cover, (b) how the crew cab floor is made and (c) that the back section is essentially a seat section and a standard cab back section.

This is how I was able to install rear outboard shoulder belts in Darth, the mounts and holes are there in the rear, just not tapped for the 7/16-20 bolts. I just needed two more standard cab outboard shoulder belt assemblies and the rear corner trim sections.

The E4OD cleared everything just fine, here it is with the cover removed.
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"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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Gary Lewis
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Thanks, Bill.  Good illustrations.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Danny G
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Gary Lewis wrote
The only change I’m aware of is in the 1990ish timeframe the transmission hump was extended back farther, apparently to accommodate the long E4OD. But otherwise I think they stayed the same.

Your cracking is exactly why I don’t recommend using any mounting points other than the factory ones for seats.

This makes me wonder if I need to do anything to accommodate the E4OD I have on standby.
1985 F-350 XL | 460 | C6 | "Rufus Maximus"
1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew | Cactus Grey | black out package | max tow
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Gary Lewis
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The issue I had with Dad's truck was that the t-case hit because the E4OD moved it back too far.  But if yours is a 2wd then I don't think you'll have a problem.  If you do, I have a solution.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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You do realize that a 2WD E4OD is only 3" longer than a 2WD C6.
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"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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Gary Lewis
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That may be, but the extra length was enough to cause the BW1356 to hit the floor on Dad's truck.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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From what I was told the crew cab floor (a) uses the tall transmission cover and (b) is higher most of the way over that area.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413