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Good job, Ray!
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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Ok, I drove it around awhile. The springs or bushings or something have settled a little. I now have a noticeable negative camber.
From what I understand, and looking at Garys alignment photos, he has .3deg positive on the drivers, and -.1deg on the passenger. But that is a solid front axle. Just eyeballing mine, I am probably in the neighborhood of -2deg camber. The thing I really dont understand is the +3deg positive caster on Garys readout. I thought -1 to -2 deg caster was for a more desirable stability. Maybe I am wrong and need to visualize this better somehow.
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker
1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed |
Yes, the suspension will definitely settle.
As I mentioned you want neutral camber and toe. By the book the caster should be positive, but I wouldn't be concerned with that, we're not driving high performance road cars... Anyway, you're still planning on taking it to a shop right? So they'll either set it for you or at least give you the numbers that you need. They should really do it, maybe Gary's was free of charge?
Rob
Eddy Myrtle '84 F150 300-6, Offenhauser C series intake, Edelbrock 1404(500cfm manual choke), EFI exhaust manifold, HEI dizzy, custom Painless harness, NP 435, NP 208, D44, 8.8"/3.08, 1.5" leveling coils, 265/75/16 tires. Toyopet (Daily driver) '86 Toyota Pickup |
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Looking good Ray. Looks like a lot of work too.
I'm going to have to bring you up here to Canada sometime as a rep for KY. The gal on the local news keeps pronouncing Louisville like "Lewis-Ville" lol.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold. 1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021. 1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995 |
Yeah, its Lou-uh-vull. One day id like to visit.
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker
1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed |
So, I messed with alignment last night and got is closer. Added caster, and aimed for as close to zero deg camber as possible. Drives much better now. Still not perfect.
I noticed after driving the truck to work it looks like its settled more. Camber was at or close to zero last night after adjusting and taking it for a spin. Now its just barely visible with neg camber. Toe is close. But I will have to adjust it everytime I make caster/camber changes. Driveline vibrates over 55mph. Maybe time for a double cardan joint at the tcase.
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker
1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed |
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Yep, I think any time you change camber or caster the toe changes. Steve had to reset the toe when I changed both camber and caster.
As for the driveline, you should be able to swap out the yoke to the one that takes the double-cardan. I can look up where I got my double-cardan yoke if you'd like.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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My truck sat in storage for 3 years with the new coils on without the geometry changing one bit. Now I've driven it a handful of times and the difference is significant! I think it settles more every time I pull it out of the garage! I'm sure it will be 'settled' eventually, hopefully before it starts sagging from wear/age!
Ideally before I take it to the shop too. Have you found a shop for yours?
Rob
Eddy Myrtle '84 F150 300-6, Offenhauser C series intake, Edelbrock 1404(500cfm manual choke), EFI exhaust manifold, HEI dizzy, custom Painless harness, NP 435, NP 208, D44, 8.8"/3.08, 1.5" leveling coils, 265/75/16 tires. Toyopet (Daily driver) '86 Toyota Pickup |
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Gary, I can find one. I had one on the bronco, but gave it away.
Rob, just drove the truck again in a Parade, and when I got home I could tell it settled a smidge. It drove pretty well, still need to get the toe just right. No death wobble.
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker
1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed |
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Oh, Rob, no I havent found a shop. Ive been tinkering with it myself.
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker
1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed |
Parade decor....
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker
1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed |
Cool! As I’ve seen you say “Murica”!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold 1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD 1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E Arizona |
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Nice pic!
I'm planning a 1000mile roadtrip in December and I'll definitely take it to the shop before then, but for now I'm also happy just cruising around with it as is... But as I mentioned before, even if the steering feels great, if the toe is just a little off, it could eat your tires real fast!
Rob
Eddy Myrtle '84 F150 300-6, Offenhauser C series intake, Edelbrock 1404(500cfm manual choke), EFI exhaust manifold, HEI dizzy, custom Painless harness, NP 435, NP 208, D44, 8.8"/3.08, 1.5" leveling coils, 265/75/16 tires. Toyopet (Daily driver) '86 Toyota Pickup |
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Lookin' good Ray!
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold. 1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021. 1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995 |
Thanks.
Here is the "parade".
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker
1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed |
1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker
1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed |
Glad you're out enjoying your truck and family!
Rob
Eddy Myrtle '84 F150 300-6, Offenhauser C series intake, Edelbrock 1404(500cfm manual choke), EFI exhaust manifold, HEI dizzy, custom Painless harness, NP 435, NP 208, D44, 8.8"/3.08, 1.5" leveling coils, 265/75/16 tires. Toyopet (Daily driver) '86 Toyota Pickup |
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Having fun!!!!
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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If this was in the “truck of the month” poll I’d vote for it in a heartbeat. Very cool!
Jacob,
84 F150 base model, New 95 roller 351w with 5.0 ho roller cam, Summit Racing Max EFI 500, and other toys, MSD DIS, C6 trans, 9 inch rear 3.50, reg cab, long bed, 4x4. 33s, 2.5" Rough Country lift. |
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