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460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

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ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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Gary will point you to the FAQ's and "how to post a picture"

Basically, the forum framework is antique and can't read the metadata.

You need to rotate the image on your device and 'save as' then copy THAT image to the forum.
Even if it appears correct. Rotate, rotate back, then save, then post.....

It's a PITA and I will NOT be bothered anymore.
Jim "does not play nice with others" 😆

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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Thank you.

I missed this because my reply took me to the next page.... 🙃

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

viven44

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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It very well could be a southern truck thing but both my trucks equipped with oil coolers did not come from the south. One came from Canada (truck in profile pic) and the other from California (parts truck).

See below the Marti report that shows it under options

https://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/Metric-speedometer-on-a-bullnose-truck-tp146096.html

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6

Ifitaintbroke

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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My truck had an identical setup, and it's originally form Colorado. Maybe a towing option?

Bradley
86 f250 supercab longbed, 4x4, 460 bored to 472 cubes, ported heads, ARP rod bolts, EFI pistons, 5.08/5.41 lift 114° lobe separation flat tappet cam, notched lifters, Smith Brothers pushrods, stock rockers, Eddy Performer intake, Holley 1850 or 3310 depending on mood, custom curved points dizzy, MSD analog 6al triggered by Pertronix module, zf5 swap, 3g alternator, custom instrument cluster, dual tanks with 38 Gal rear for 57 Gal of fuel capacity, far too much more to mention.

98 Ranger standard cab, rwd, 5-speed, 2.5L, glass pack muffler, dual plugs wired to fire at the same time, coming up on 300,000 miles before too long.

Averaging 26-27 mpg.

South Georgia.

ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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I thought my truck had ALL the towing package.

I may be wrong..

Evidently the oil cooler is a stand alone option, NOT part of the trailer/camper equipment package.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

viven44

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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DONE

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6

viven44

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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Yes. Most likely paired with a towing option, my truck has factory trailer brakes, etc. Wired to the brake master cylinder, have no idea how/if it works, Lol. Interesting part is it has 3.07 gears!! Not towing gears!!

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6

ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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In reply to this post by viven44

Cool.

You've got it now!

IIRC the trailer option involves a relay for all the extra lights you'll be using.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

viven44

Re: 460 Smog Delete

Yes there is an old relay for it. Most likely looking like fried chicken on the inside

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6

ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete

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The terminals like to rust out on the bottom, where you can't see them

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

myrl883

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

In reply to this post by viven44

Last I was there, you could still buy the cup plugs for the heads from Ford. DOZZ-6026-B.

Ford Parts Monkey since 1985
1981 F100 Flareside - Black, 302-4V Roller/AOD
1986 F150 Flareside - Medium Fire Red 302/AOD
1989 F150 Standard Cab 4x4 - Dk Shadow Blue 302/AOD
1993 F350 4x4 Crew Cab - 7.3 IDI/ZF-5
I think it's a sickness...

ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

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This post was updated on .

. That's one to file away! 💡

I was a bit surprised that the local dealer had a half dozen crush collars and sealed pinion nuts on the shelf.**for the short pinion 10.25** (Unless the current trucks still use them)

Counter monkeys are the best!
Encyclopedic knowledge and total recall.

**edit**

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

viven44

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

Getting closer to pulling the motor. As much as I am ashamed to admit that I did not pay any attention whatsoever on the donor 460, I must also for “year to year change documentation purposes” mention that the 86 460 is missing the spider inlet tube system altogether. I have observed the very thing also on ‘Big Red’ a 85 460 truck I used to own. Appears the 85+ smog systems used a different smog architecture. More on this after the motor is pulled out. I am also expecting to see a NPT type plug on the back of the "exhaust manifolds" instead of the heads!

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6

ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

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I don't think the heads changed from the D3TE until the E7TE (EFI) heads that were used beginning in '88.

I do know that they all used the thermactor passages (humps) in the exhaust ports.

I'm interested in what you find!

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

viven44

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

I crawled under just now (my favorite thing to do!) and it does look like the heads are engaged in the smog system in the back (not the exhaust manifold) with the cross-over style tubes being held down by a bolt as you described. It's just surprising to me how this smog system is configured. No signs of a partial smog delete. It's a pretty original truck. Still has all the emissions components otherwise, even has the original tower style hose clamps everywhere.

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6

ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

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You've got a survivor!

All that "smog junk" is very important to those of us that have to test annually.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

85lebaront2

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

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In reply to this post by viven44

Darth had both the rear air feed and the "spiders" into the exhaust manifolds. He also had dual air pumps and enough plumbing on top to almost completely hide the intake manifold.

Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

viven44

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

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It was a survivor, until it got in a wreck and got totaled. Hoping the heart and soul of this Bullnose will live in the Bronco :)

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6

ArdWrknTrk

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

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It's a noble fate!
L&L and JBG were both pioneers in your project.
Though most of the ground they once covered can be had cheaper and iterated today.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

viven44

Re: 460 Smog Delete and Oil Cooler Delete for a 78 Bronco Swap

Randomly ran across this video that shows a 460 in a 78-79 bronco rather well, same color scheme and all as mine!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ9eKhNT8pM

I might have room to keep the oil cooler possibly!! I will be keeping the factory exhaust manifold for sure, looks like finding the correct headers is not for those without deep pockets!

Vivek

- BB 2WD - 1984 F350 RWD 460/C6
- 1978 Bronco with a 460 from an 86 Bullnose/C6

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