1985 F250, 4x4, 460 - 2nd Owner!

[Dean_L]

New Member here, Just found out about this Forum.. Wow Where have you been my whole life!!!

My 1985 F250, 460 has been with me since spring of 1996, just after my 16th Birthday.  Best vehicle Ive ever owned!  I have over 200,000 miles, 2nd transmission, but its a work horse.  Starting to rebuild her so my Son can drive her in high school in a few years

[Ray Cecil]

Welcome Dean. Where are you located?

[Gary Lewis]

Dean - Welcome!  Glad you joined.  

As for where we've been, we are only just over two years old.  And we are now just over 500 users.

So, where's home?  We have a member's map (Bullnose Forum/Member's Map in the menu) and I'd love to add you if you'd give me the city where you live.

And '85 F250 w/a 460 sounds familiar.    Where'd I hear about one of those?  Oh yes!  I was just working on one!!!!

[Dean_L]

Coarsegold, California

[Gary Lewis]

You are now on the map.  

[grumpin]

Welcome! Beautiful area you live in!

[ArdWrknTrk]

Welcome to the forum Dean!  

We love father/son (& daughter) projects around here. 💘

Yep, a workhorse.
I once (on FTE to someone with a 351HO) said the 460 is an ox.
Where the mule *can pull the plow through a rocky field, the the ox can lumber along all day and make it look easy.

So maybe you have a Percheron?

[Dean_L]

Is your upper body mouldings original? I need.to replace mine but I understand it's rare because it was only on early model 85s

[Gary Lewis]

Dean_L wrote

Is your upper body mouldings original? I need.to replace mine but I understand it's rare because it was only on early model 85s

In case Rick doesn't get right back, his truck had that trim originally, but when he had it repainted he found what he thinks is the last set of that trim NOS.

And it is rare as it was originally offered in early '85 and then apparently dropped as an option.  You can see the "early" and "late" 1985 brochures here (Documentation/Literature/1985 Literature) and the early has it on the cover and the late doesn't.

[Dean_L]

Thanks. I emailed NOS today, I hope they have them!  Since I owned this truck I always wondered why no other mid 80s fords had them. Now I know...

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019, 6:41 AM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dean_L wrote

Is your upper body mouldings original? I need.to replace mine but I understand it's rare because it was only on early model 85s

In case Rick doesn't get right back, his truck had that trim originally, but when he had it repainted he found what he thinks is the last set of that trim NOS.

And it is rare as it was originally offered in early '85 and then apparently dropped as an option.  You can see the "early" and "late" 1985 brochures here (Documentation/Literature/1985 Literature) and the early has it on the cover and the late doesn't.

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in back, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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[LARIAT 85]

Like Gary said, my truck originally came with those moldings, but I replaced them with NOS pieces when I had my truck repainted a couple of years ago.  

No one reproduces this style, so they will be very hard to locate.  They were only used for the early 1985 model year, and Ford quickly dropped them.  It took me years to find and put together a complete set of these moldings.  Here is a thread a made about it on another site:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1466244-mysterious-1985-bodyside-protection-molding.html

[Gary Lewis]

Dean_L wrote

Thanks. I emailed NOS today, I hope they have them!  Since I owned this
truck I always wondered why no other mid 80s fords had them. Now I know...

You emailed "NOS"?  There's a company called NOS?  That stands for New Old Stock, meaning new parts that have been in someone's stock forever, but I didn't know there's a company called that.

If they don't, the guys on here sometimes turn up individual sections of it, but not a whole kit.  So you'd be faced with piecing it together and hoping you'll finally find all the pieces.  It isn't going to be easy - I think Rick said he spent years getting all of the pieces.   You may never get a full set and yet have a chunk of money tied up in what pieces you find.  Plus, if you were to get a whole set pieced together you wouldn't be able to replace a section if there was an accident.

I fought that fight to get trim for Dad's truck, although it is different than yours.  I got what is the last usable piece of 8' trim for the bed, and it was twisted.  My paint/body man said he thinks he can straighten it, but it'll never be "right".  Then I acquired Big Blue and he came with a perfect NOS piece of that trim so it'll go on Dad's truck when the time comes.  But replacing it probably will never happen.

I say all of that to say you should think about what trim you want to put on your truck.  It is a long term effort to collect all the pieces needed, and you never know if you are going to get all of them.  And if Rick is right, you won't.  

[Dean_L]

NOS LTD, in Texas.  Ive also contacted Green Sales and am waiting to hear back from them.  Its going to be a hunt for sure!!!

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 7:01 AM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dean_L wrote

Thanks. I emailed NOS today, I hope they have them!  Since I owned this
truck I always wondered why no other mid 80s fords had them. Now I know...

You emailed "NOS"?  There's a company called NOS?  That stands for New Old Stock, meaning new parts that have been in someone's stock forever, but I didn't know there's a company called that.

If they don't, the guys on here sometimes turn up individual sections of it, but not a whole kit.  So you'd be faced with piecing it together and hoping you'll finally find all the pieces.  It isn't going to be easy - I think Rick said he spent years getting all of the pieces.   You may never get a full set and yet have a chunk of money tied up in what pieces you find.  Plus, if you were to get a whole set pieced together you wouldn't be able to replace a section if there was an accident.

I fought that fight to get trim for Dad's truck, although it is different than yours.  I got what is the last usable piece of 8' trim for the bed, and it was twisted.  My paint/body man said he thinks he can straighten it, but it'll never be "right".  Then I acquired Big Blue and he came with a perfect NOS piece of that trim so it'll go on Dad's truck when the time comes.  But replacing it probably will never happen.

I say all of that to say you should think about what trim you want to put on your truck.  It is a long term effort to collect all the pieces needed, and you never know if you are going to get all of them.  And if Rick is right, you won't.  

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in back, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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[Dean_L]

Rick and Gary,

Can you confirm if these are the correct part numbers?  I think I have found 2 of them so far...

E5TZ 16003-A  (RH)

E5TZ 16003-B  (LH)

E5TZ 1520938-A (RH)  (they list a -B for "with swing lock mirror", can you tell which I have from photo)

E5TZ 1520939-A (LH)    (they list a -B for "with swing lock mirror", can you tell which I have from photo) 

E5TZ 1529314-A (RH)

E5TZ 1529315-A  (LH) 

E5TZ 9929038-B (RH)

E5TZ 9929039-B (LH)  

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:19 AM Dean_L [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:

NOS LTD, in Texas.  Ive also contacted Green Sales and am waiting to hear back from them.  Its going to be a hunt for sure!!!

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 7:01 AM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dean_L wrote

Thanks. I emailed NOS today, I hope they have them!  Since I owned this
truck I always wondered why no other mid 80s fords had them. Now I know...

You emailed "NOS"?  There's a company called NOS?  That stands for New Old Stock, meaning new parts that have been in someone's stock forever, but I didn't know there's a company called that.

If they don't, the guys on here sometimes turn up individual sections of it, but not a whole kit.  So you'd be faced with piecing it together and hoping you'll finally find all the pieces.  It isn't going to be easy - I think Rick said he spent years getting all of the pieces.   You may never get a full set and yet have a chunk of money tied up in what pieces you find.  Plus, if you were to get a whole set pieced together you wouldn't be able to replace a section if there was an accident.

I fought that fight to get trim for Dad's truck, although it is different than yours.  I got what is the last usable piece of 8' trim for the bed, and it was twisted.  My paint/body man said he thinks he can straighten it, but it'll never be "right".  Then I acquired Big Blue and he came with a perfect NOS piece of that trim so it'll go on Dad's truck when the time comes.  But replacing it probably will never happen.

I say all of that to say you should think about what trim you want to put on your truck.  It is a long term effort to collect all the pieces needed, and you never know if you are going to get all of them.  And if Rick is right, you won't.  

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in back, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Dean L
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1985 F250, 4x4, 460, Red Standard Cab,

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[Gary Lewis]

Dean - Several things.  First, you are asking questions about your truck in Rick's thread.  I'd like to move it to your 1985 F250, 4x4, 460 - 2nd Owner! thread, if that's ok with you.

Second, you are responding via email so it brings in lots of extra stuff, so I'll have to strip that out when I quote it.  Not sure if you are aware of the difference between posting in the forum vs responding via email.

Anyway, here's your post w/the extraneous stuff stripped out:

Dean_L wrote

Rick and Gary,

Can you confirm if these are the correct part numbers?  I think I have
found 2 of them so far...

E5TZ 16003-A  (RH)
E5TZ 16003-B  (LH)
E5TZ 1520938-A (RH)  (they list a -B for "with swing lock mirror", can you
tell which I have from photo)
E5TZ 1520939-A (LH)    (they list a -B for "with swing lock mirror", can
you tell which I have from photo)
E5TZ 1529314-A (RH)
E5TZ 1529315-A  (LH)
E5TZ 9929038-B (RH)
E5TZ 9929039-B (LH)

And here's the info from the master parts catalog.  Looks to me like you have it right, assuming you have an 8' bed.




As for your question about the mirrors, your picture in the first post of the thread is so small I can't tell.  And when I try to blow that pic up it is so blurry I still can't tell.  Do you have a better pic?

[Vic Roma]

Get photos before you rush in and buy only to find you may have the wrong piece(s).

The hornets' nest sure is buzzing with this topic, on FTE and here.

[Dean_L]

Gary,

Here is a pic of the mirror.  

Sorry for hijacking Ricks thread, lol.  Also I wont respond through email replies anymore

[Gary Lewis]

Dean - No problem, it happens a lot.  I've moved the posts over here.  This way you'll have the history in your own thread.

As for your mirrors, I think they are swing locks.  But you should confirm that yourself.  Go to Documentation/Exterior/Exterior Mirrors , scroll down on the Types tab and you'll see that you have Type 9 mirros.  (Don't sweat that yours are rounded and those in the illustration are rectangular.  The illustration is of the early ones and you have the later ones.)  Then go to the Part #'s tab and scroll down to Type 9's and you'll see they are "swing locks".